Tell me about your hangar block.

[red750]

Tell them it's a hayshed  

 

[skippydiesel]

11 hours ago, Moneybox said:

While driving around Perth I've been thinking of this door. I decided the best option might be like shown in the video KRviator put up but constructed from freezer panel. I think it might even come in full length 12m sheets. It'd be light weight and rigid, well insulated and easily installed.

Why do you need a door?

 

Doors are for cold climates and/or the illusion of security.😈

[facthunter]

Keep Birds out and dust and leaves. Also Privacy.  Nev

[pmccarthy]

The bird thing is important. I put rubber seal strips on the edges of the doors.

[skippydiesel]

3 hours ago, pmccarthy said:

The bird thing is important. I put rubber seal strips on the edges of the doors.

I have seen hanger "doors" made out of shade cloth curtain - seemed to do the job.

 

Reality check:

• Position hanger so into prevailing wind ie closed/gable end facing wind..
• Trying to bird proof a hanger will result in a life time effort ie loosing battle.
• Control (not total elimination) more likly . Make roosting points inhospitable - "Hot foot" or similar a likly cost effective solution.
• Few if any hangers are dust proof. If dust a concern, cover aircraft is something like cotton sheeting.
• In most of rural/semi rural Australia, the biggest threat to your aircraft is weather, especially hail & high wind gust.
• A door will assist but is likly not to be cost effective.
• Most doors will have a significant purchase cost & on going maintenance effort & cost.
• Without added security (patrols/cameras/etc) unlikly to be a significant hindrance to determined unwelcome visitor(s)

😈

Edited January 25 by skippydiesel

[onetrack]

In rural and remote regions in the interior of Australia, savage, sudden wind gusts from willy-willies or mini-tornadoes, would be a major threat to hangar doors, that weren't substantially secured and reinforced.

You need doors that can resist a minimum of 150kmh or 42m/s wind speeds in these regions, as these wind events can be very sudden, very destructive, and appear with virtually no warning.

I've had caravan annexes in mining camps totally destroyed by these events, and even seen caravans overturned with willy-willies or mini-tornado events. 

[skippydiesel]

25 minutes ago, onetrack said:

In rural and remote regions in the interior of Australia, savage, sudden wind gusts from willy-willies or mini-tornadoes, would be a major threat to hangar doors, that weren't substantially secured and reinforced.

You need doors that can resist a minimum of 150kmh or 42m/s wind speeds in these regions, as these wind events can be very sudden, very destructive, and appear with virtually no warning.

I've had caravan annexes in mining camps totally destroyed by these events, and even seen caravans overturned with willy-willies or mini-tornado events. 

That's why you have a shade cloth "door" instead of an expensive bearly usable (without constant maintenance) sold door. KISS😈

[Moneybox]

5 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

I have seen hanger "doors" made out of shade cloth curtain - seemed to do the job.

 

Reality check:

• Position hanger so into prevailing wind ie closed/gable end facing wind..
• Trying to bird proof a hanger will result in a life time effort ie loosing battle.
• Control (not total elimination) more likly . Make roosting points inhospitable - "Hot foot" or similar a likly cost effective solution.
• Few if any hangers are dust proof. If dust a concern, cover aircraft is something like cotton sheeting.
• In most of rural/semi rural Australia, the biggest threat to your aircraft is weather, especially hail & high wind gust.
• A door will assist but is likly not to be cost effective.
• Most doors will have a significant purchase cost & on going maintenance effort & cost.
• Without added security (patrols/cameras/etc) unlikly to be a significant hindrance to determined unwelcome visitor(s)

😈

 

I like this idea. I've been looking into building that big tilt door and whatever I use is going to weigh over 400kg for a 12m x 3m door.

 

 

Last year I built a shelter for Mrs M's Mercedes Vito. It's made from light gauge steel RHS tubing and covered in 90% shade cloth, cheap, fast and secure. I first bought a heap of tex screws and washers to secure the shade cloth before finding Wiggle wire.

 

 

This bundle consists of a 'C' section aluminum channel that you fasten down with a few tex screws and a spring wire that you wiggle into place over the cloth. It not only secures the cloth but tensions it as well. I laid a whole 7m x 8m roof in a day and it's still looking good. Fastened to a frame it could make a large light weight door.

 

 

Edited January 26 by Moneybox

[facthunter]

Being able to seal a shed with a door makes it better able to handle strong winds The BIG opening is hard to cross brace and needs  to be braced at each side. Nev

[Moneybox]

4 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Being able to seal a shed with a door makes it better able to handle strong winds The BIG opening is hard to cross brace and needs  to be braced at each side. Nev

Unless you get a sudden low like a cyclone where the reduced pressure outside allows the higher internal pressure to blow the building apart.

[facthunter]

THAT doesn't happen suddenly. Gusts do.. Nev

[facthunter]

The Centre of a Cyclone rarely Moves at much above 20 KPH. It's the STRONG Wind and flying Debris that does the damage with Flooding in Low lying Coastal areas Due to the LOW sea level Pressures making the high tide be even Higher. Nev

[skippydiesel]

A shade cloth curtain:

• Can be cut to conform to any shape eg an arc, horizontal beam/ track, etc
• Is permeable, so presents less of a barrier to wind gusts.
• Does not require a frame or batton stiffeners .
• Could have a series of vertical "posts" that follow a track and are secured at the bottom.
• Can be secured at the bottom by variose methods eg anchor points, cable across floor, etc.

😈

[Flightrite]

My hangar doors aren’t sealed that well, I want the hangar to ‘breath’ with pressure equal both sides (or close) pointless putting rubber strips down the edges as birds can’t fly thru typical such gaps anyway! The doors are for safety and a reduction in WX related issues, all my A/C are kept under dooners and sheets inside anyway.

[facthunter]

Birds get through the smallest of gaps and then fly to where they want to Nest. Your Hangar MUST be strong enough to Never collapse on your  Aircraft OR it's ALL for Nothing.. Nev