Tomo

G'day Dick, and welcome.

A lot of MAF pilots get trained down there at Coldstream, would you be one of the instructors who have done that?

Welcome back Tomo !!

Good to have you back young Tomo

I'd definitely check the squelch....

Also another thing, has the cable been kinked or squashed at all that you know of? that can cause all sorts of grief to musicians etc...

I've seen a vehicle that was following a truck who's bin was creeping up, unbeknown to the driver of the truck. Anyway what ended up happening was he hit a power line going over the road and the car behind copped a face full of power line, resulting in burn marks all over the bonnet etc... no one was hurt but it coulda been pretty serious!

I don't like following anything that resembles a porter loo imagine being in an accident with that... would make the experience a whole lot more.... dirty! :yuk:

Very spic! :thumb_up:

Gotta love Jo's Spitfire.... :thumb_up:

Expensive way to make the earth move. Nev

and me with out the matching spanner %#@^.

Yep, you guessed it - the shifter! :thumb_up:

Hey TOMO... have a look at the Auster and Tiger... not much heavier than a lot of our RAAus aircraft and the engine is far less powerful than the Rotax 912... but if you couldn't slip one on final you certainly learnt how to do a go-around!

Oky Doky....

I believe we are kinda chasing each others tail's a bit here, so I'll try my best to clarify it a little.

What Wag's is saying ~

Back to the approach - established drift is maintained into the flare and just before touchdown the aircraft is aligned with the runway with rudder while simultaneously applying aileron to keep the wings level. Sometimes it requires quite a boot full of rudder (perhaps up to full rudder in max x-wind conditions) with a considerable amount of aileron to keep the wings level because of the secondary effect of controls. Go try it by setting the aircraft up in an approach configuration at 3000 ft AGL and see just how much aileron you need to keep the wings level when you apply a good boot-full of rudder. Yaw the aircraft left and right while applying aileron to keep the wings level with the horizon. If nothing else it will help remind you of the ineffectiveness and limits of your flying controls at low airspeed.Wings are maintained level (or even very slightly lowered into wind) with aileron throughout the touchdown and roll-out using rudder to keep the aircraft aligned with the runway centreline. Running along on one wheel looks cool but doesn't achieve anything more than positive control does. A positive landing under full control will ensure you will not loose control of the aircraft. The intention should be to get the aircraft on the ground and away from the effects of the x-wind... not floating down the strip hoping a gust doesn't pick up the into wind wing and give you more troubles than Speed Gordon can control while you have both a high nose attitude and low airspeed. That is a recipe for disaster!

 

It is my personal opinion that to teach approaches with crossed controls all the way down final is asking for, and probably setting up for trouble! Side slipping should be reserved for getting rid of extra height, and then only used as a last resort if the runway you are approaching is limiting and you have exhausted all other methods of washing off excess height.

I sometimes put down one wheel in the Drifter if it is really strong crosswind, just to stop myself being blown away (you've got to keep that wing down other wise you haven't enough aileron to put it back). But generally as a rule I try and land both wheels down, lot less stress that way, especially in the Jab.

As for side slipping on finals, It's only for that unwanted lift etc on finals that puts you higher than wanted, so slip it in. Or in my case, sometimes just for fun and practice.

And for Tiger Moths, Austers, or any aircraft with a big engine out front, you have to slip it in so you can see where your heading, flicking it straight at touch down.

My instructor didn't let me go solo until I could fly along at 3' and side slip from side to side keeping straight with the runway and at the same height. Though that is in a Drifter... so sideslips are part of the experience.

"S" turns, I'd keep that for the engine failure in a paddock, but it's not a bad thing to keep up your sleeve if needed, not normal practice, but it's good to know.

So we have a few discussions happening.

One - letting your aircraft 'Yaw' into wind on finals, kicking it straight just before touch down. (most of us do that I'm sure)

Two - Side slipping, a very useful thing if needed, and used a lot on some aircaft.

Three - "S" turns, I've never done that, or seen it till the video, in a powered aircraft on finals with engine still operative anyway... in gliders it is a pretty normal thing.

Four - Use of flaps, and terminology... up to the pilot's discretion, obviously Wag's would know the "Professional" way of putting it being in the Airline group of pilots.

And anything else that has been thrown in, so lets not get ourselves confused, because it is causing a lot of uncertainty in everyone, especially the knew pilots to be... :thumb_up:

it must be tough being a thomo on this site when we have already a tomo.....if I saw thomos original post I would have thought..."whats tomo up to now?" and continued browsing....

It's nice to know other's care anyway Andy!;)

Yesterday arvo Planey was working on an automatic gate at Dural NW Sydney

Isn't it sad when your down working and others are up flying over your head. That's gotta come close to being a crime! :big_grin:

No doubt about you Tomo, you're a bit of a nut. (I did'nt say nutter:question:)

I believe that a two stroke powered plane is very expensive ........regard steven i_dunno

Hey Thomo!

So sorry no one has welcomed you mate! It's been a very long time since you posted, but I noticed you because you visited my profile.

So I hope you are still around here... Keep it up!

Have Fun and fly safe,

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... visit the NES, creating great sadness amongst it's dedicated writers......

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Tomorrow will be the last day Tomo's gonna be around here for a little while.... doing a totally unusual thing and going on Holidays for 10 days... :thumb_up:

Yes, but where's the fun in that? :)

I'm gonna have to start making a "Fly-in piggy bank" so I have something to hire a plane to go to some of these things myself!

Hey Stan!

Did you guys get much rain out there? We got about 5-10 mms the other day, not a lot.

but I was having a slight radio problem in the Savannah, so I couldn't call you just then. Cheers..............................................................................................

But, Did you end up finding out what the problem was with the radio Maj? cause remember we couldn't get it working at our place.

the one's sitting in the cockpit.... i_dunno

Ooops wrong thread..! :ah_oh:

I noticed on his before take-off check he states "flaps zero, not required"... surely the correct response is "flaps zero, set for take-off". If flaps are "not required" they would have been removed from the aircraft by the manufacturer!

He had a cross wind for a start, not to mention the turbulence, so in his situation, I would take off without flap also. Gives you a slightly faster take off speed, enhancing airflow over the controls for better controlling in the turbulence etc... and having a bit of a head wind component he isn't likely to run out of runway, so doesn't require the extra lift.

So his comment of "flaps zero, not required" is the only way to put it really...? Because flaps set for normal take off conditions usually use one stage of flap. And they were not required!

Don't you think?

That is so cool, Thanks Doug! :thumb_up:

Maybe I should just try and win lotto...anyone got any numbers they recommend? :big_grin:

Some one with 'too much time on their hands'?:big_grin:

I wish that was the case nowadays with me too!

I used to make stacks of stuff, I don't think I've even turned on my lathe's for 5 months!

Though I have nearly finished a clock (not like those ones above!) for a friend for a wedding present I think!