Tomo

Ok, so weather permitting I'm getting a type conversion on a J230 tomorrow....

So basically I was just wondering if there is any silly little things I should look out for that will be of help to me in mastering it! I know I will do as the instructor requires, but it doesn't hurt to find out what others reckon.

I've been told about it floating a little more, and more rudder on take off etc... Anything else you reckon I need to know that will make life easier?

I've ended up going with the guys over at Clifton, so I'll see what it is like over there too.

I've got about 21hrs in a J120, and 40 or more in Drifters...

so that you won't be infected by Tomo (eh)"

But....! Tomo has infected the whole area, so twill be of no use trying to dodge Dalby.

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You just haven't met me yet that's what your problem is..... I'm seriously hoping I can make it to Natfly!

Sounds like it was a worth while evening... I like it that he has been over to Bundy to fly in a Jabiru, show's that he has interest in our sport. Even if it was to 'suss it out'.

Tomo, Its a 7/8th scale Nieuport. A bunch of my mates have just accuired one and are in the process of getting it airworthy. Google them.

Jimny! not real good alright.

Hope those lost get found all well. I wonder what happened to the aircraft that ditched? Mechanical failure... mmm

Thanks Ian, but I was actually thinking of the little cream coloured one, Reg 1968

unusual alright, that big thingo underneath on its belly sure is a funny shape!

Looks like it was a pretty good day, definitely a range of aircraft to look at.

That biplane in pic three is nice, what is it?

Hi Tomo,I'd be interested. Please feel free to shoot me a PM closer to the date if you want and we could sort something out.

They've obviously brought their kids up right if they care about their parents well being. :thumb_up:

Great work Shag's, and great pic's too!

When I take a passenger up for their very first aircraft ever flight (I've done a few now!) I try and pick the best time of day to do it, (can't beat the early morning on a nice day!) And yes keep all the turns shallow at first, and just for their sake I even tell them pretty much what I'm going to do before I do it, just so 'they' don't get worried and think it is 'abnormal'. After a while they are asking you to turn to the right so that they can get a good picture of the ground, doesn't take long before they realize it is ok and they aren't going to fall out. (very evident in the drifter)

And when you land and they say they want to buy an aeroplane now... you know they must have enjoyed it! :thumb_up:

Guess that means I'll need GA...

Sounds likes a plan, will have to see If I'm around about then, I could be heading up to NE Arnhem Land sometime in Feb, but I'm not sure yet...

BTW Is there a J230 on line over there at Kingaroy? I wouldn't mind coming over and getting a type conversion on one. If so, would you mind sending me the flight school details?

Ah yes thats terrific!

So she's a her hey?

That and I won't be back in the air until April at least..

G'day and Welcom Kialla, It is a great pleasure to have with us.

Yes do keep us posted with your progress, we all love hearing about it, or if in doubt about something, I'm sure someone will have the answer to put you at ease, so don't hesitate to ask anything you'd like to find out.

I'm really glad you are enjoying yourself, keep it up, it only gets better... and very rewarding.

Fly safe, and have fun! :thumb_up:

Hey Tomo, if you ever get a passenger feeling sick in the drifter, just don't fly over my house...please

They seem to have quite a few different variations...

The Jet one is pretty cool!

Fortunately I haven't had anyone sick on me yet! and I'm dreading the day I will!! Someone throwing up beside you in a car's bad enough...!

Another thing if someone is feeling a bit weird is to keep them talking, and interested in the surroundings, it keeps their mind active in the right direction. And look outside at the horizon, not particularly the ground as that causes a vertigo sensation.

Thanks a lot for that Jim,

I would love to do something like that most probably early next yr sometime. Not sure what for, but I'm sure the extra bit of experience will be good for me. Will have to start a saving fund for it though!

I certainly will love to come over to Gatton sometime also, looks like it'd have to be next yr now though too... What strip do you fly from over there? I've been to the AG College one, but never actually went to the others.

BTW Anyone keen on doing a FF endorsement sometime next yr? I'm not certain about it yet, but no harm in asking!

We've got FSX with Saitek joy stick and rudder pedals (the rudder pedals make all the difference!).

For ground handling and directional control, and learning to keep straight on take off etc... it is/was a great help. (that is where the rudder pedals are a real bonus!)

For flying circuits its hopeless! unless you are doing instrument stuff and using Rate 1-2 turns etc... and timing everything to be in the right spot when turning base its ok. But VFR circuits are very difficult to say the least. I just fly base leg and finals so you can keep an eye on the strip and not loose it.

I found the best way to do it was to video record the flight, touch-n-go's etc... and then watch it from a tower view, and you can really refine your flying style to look nice. Even giving yourself a dose of aero's with smoke on is pretty cool when watching it from the outside tower view.

Computer performance wise, Your Sony (nice choice!) laptop should handle it pretty good, you can also adjust the graphics - scenery etc... to make the it perform faster, obviously loosing the realism though.

Space, I'd allow something like 6 Gb (I'm just picking this off the top of my head so not totally sure!) for it.

So for trying to teach yourself to land, I'd probably not do it just for that reason, but you can have a load of fun doing different things, flying different aircraft and learn their particularities (to an extent!)

Real flight is a cracker... a friend has it and I could spend hours on it, (and I'm not a computer games person by no means! Believe it or not, but flight sim is the only game I play!) That is the next best thing to actually buying a RC aircraft, especially when you crash it... it just gives you another!!

Anyway I hope I haven't confused you to much! :big_grin:

We have all gone through the same stage with this Darky, so don't fret to much. But I can understand where you're coming from with thinking you'll never get it, I've had to keep Mum energized in thinking she will get it!

So you are in the exact same position as my Mum, she is flying great but just hasn't found the ground yet. Some pick it up quicker than others, but those that take the longest usually end up the best at it in the long run...

I did 36 landings one day, and by the last few I think I worked it out! Mind you it was spread out during the day, so wasn't all in one hit! and it was in a Drifter, so a little different to the Jab.

I still am learning how to land the Jabiru 'nicely', I got to remember it ain't a tail dragger and stop trying to three point land it!

Maybe synchronize turning things off an on with 'definite' parts of the circuit - like turning off carb heat - do it after you radio turning finals etc... that way it will eventually all fall into place.

I used to forget to squeeze the brakes after take off, but now it just happens automatically, Trust me it does happen!

Keep it up! You're doing great...!

Man alive!!!!!

Hey Everyone!

Just curing my curiosity here.... who has done the formation flying Endorsement?

What's involved?

Is it worth considering?

How long does it usually take to do?

Do you have to do it in the same type of aircraft your flying with, or can it be different?

Do you learn with another learner in the other aircraft? Ie, two learning with instructors in both acft... or is it someone up to scratch with it?

Reading through the Syllabus in the Ops manual, it sounds like pretty good fun.

Ta :thumb_up: