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"That'll provide a good bit more fencing wire for me to keep my outboards running" said Tubb "While I ......

.. would be keen to take on the fencing contract for Mr Brumby, I don't think I've got a tape long enough to measure them.

Perhaps Deccadence who has been brown nosing the ex Administrator might have the answer.............

"Bugga! gotta go...someone's set fire to sumthin...

Turbo's diversion had worked. There's nothing that attracts a fireman more than a fire. He'd also put a gate across the road, so McLocks wouold be there for hours.

He checked the windsock and started an approach for the upwind runway.

From the ether came the sound of an RPT "Sorry old chap, but I'm going to make a downwind landing to save a minute or two - bip off will you?"

But this was not one of the gentlefolk of Wagga Wagga, this was Turbo, who hadn't had a speedway drive for a while and thought this might be a good opportunity.

"B*gger Off" said Turbo, this is the duty runway.

Now there is nothing harder that the spinner of a Jab, and only one place to hit a Dash 8 and get away with it and that's directly on the nose.........

Meanwhile a solitary aircraft flew over head maintaining a very precise altitude (plus or minus 20 feet) and with the radio off, :uhoh2: so his eyesight wouldn't fail.......==============

.....Turbo had taken to the air, having sold his house and possessions to meet the cost of the two hour hire in Jabiru Wun Wing Down (sorry, forgot this wasn't pprune - 0412)

He scorned the GPS, even scorned Biggleswas's $2 compass - he'd learnt to navigate by studying the Egyptians.

Captain Starlet from Rodney Bay had ridiculed this, saying "If they were sailing the Nile they could only be going upriver, downriver or bumping into the banks!"

But he was wrong. Not many people knew there was a young Pharaoh buried near Gosford (get on the web if you don't believe me). He'd navigated all the way to Australian (which was probably called Mulla Mulla or Wog Wog then), only to be bitten by a snake, which is depicted on the rocks.

Turbo sniggered that Horlocks clearly relied on a piece of Chinese electronics that had a life cycle of 23 minutes.

He was heading up the Murrumbidgee to Wagga Wagga for another session with Madam Doubtfire.

He looked out the window at the fences - everyone knew that in Victoria they ran True North, and in New South Wales Magnetic North (because NSW people didn't know how to convert to TN.)

He was obviously heading 061 magnetic.

He looked up and snapped his stopwatch as Soyuz 17 flew over, snapped it again as Zykop 23 (Turbo was one of the few people trusted with this knowldge) came over the horizon, and again as Wing Chook 3 zoomed by (sorry about the GPS crack guys).

Using the 4000 year old Egyptian calculation he identified he was abeam Henty and would be arriving in YSWG2 shortly......

......which seemd to be taking quite a long time.

"Oh well, they say not to cook in aluminium because it gives you.... it gives you.....I've forgotten. Anyway, flying in it must do the same" said Turbo to a clearly revitalised Rat.

"It's wonderful news that they only found lolly papers down Deccadence's throat" he said, at the same time making a mental note to give Deccadence a good kicking for giving away the fact that Turbo had let him stay in his room while only paying for a single.....

"For the 1st time in my life, I think I'm in love" replied Nanna. "That Decca is FANTASTIC and doesn't just stop at 10, or mere Deccadence ........... and not a blue pill in sight. He's an adventurous soul too & I think I have lost my ...........

"...infatuation with Pete, who used to like playing tunnel rats......"

Someone has removed the photos of the complainant from post #2111 ......... even though there has not been a suppression order from the Cherub's Court Case.

What is going on?

 

Or have the Turbodangler's lawyers taken action in the Supreme Court?

"They are visible", said Madam Doubtfire, who was not averse to turning on Wagga's Wagga's Own and sling them in the wagon with the associated cland as they his the front wall, "to people who can count up to 12 without using their fingers" she said.

"For example they are visible to that nice Turbo who gave me a minty and plenty at Henty" she continued with a smirk....

"And Ahlocks the Harlock is missing, so put out an APB as there are heaps of Commodore drivers locked out of their cars and the Fire Dept is out of control ... so where is he?"

"He is ..........

"visiting Ho Ho to look at his puddle jumping Skyranger" said Turbo

"He's sick of being bullied by the RPT jet jocks, and figures he can buy a block with a chook shed and and tennis court at the end of town, and that will give him his own hangar and runway"

The Golden Rat was amazed "he always defended the rivet box" he said " and he seemd to like chatting with the boys in uniform"

"His mind was changed when he saw an ad for a Skyranger Swift" said Turbo "although it sounds a bit to me like a Morris Minor GT, probably increases the speed from 67 to 68 knots"

"Well where's Deccadent?" asked Ratatat

"That's another story; he went looking for Nanna, and there she was, the good time girl of the town with "Ready for sex" in her eyes, but "bring a paper bag" on her body (thanks to Bill Bryson).

"That didn't worry Deccadence, an old stud from way back, and he's been "engaged" ever since" said Turbo........

Slarti,Love your sepia work too!

 

Philthy

 

PS: The Slarti-plane is in the pipeline...

Sort of Hyena colour?

Yenn, you're quite right - with the benefit of hindsight, neither were ready to fly, but now put yourself in the shoes of the instructor - you've got a student who's bright and responsive, all the lessons have been in calm weather, nothing has gone wrong, the student has had you as a safety net, so any stress issues have not been noticeable, and you've made the decision to pull the rug out from underneath him and let him go.

Yes, wise words.

Link for original Flying Flea

No, there were a few problems.

I'm not referring to any airport or any time frame here, but a sad case I recall was a student who had just reached solo status and was doing circuits.

His approach went wrong so he decided on a go round, and was tracking on runway heading, flustered from his mistake and desperately trying to remember what he'd been told about go round procedure, when the tower called him into an early crosswind.

Now he had lost his normal 500' and 1000' turn reference points, and the stress would have been up several hundred percent.

He had to make a decision on where to turn downwind without ever having done it, but a downwind aircraft hit him first and he was killed.

That situation could happen to any student, so you'd think if the document warranted a red cover, they could have given some examples.

This reminds me of the old Colonels' Mess when they all start talking about the good old days.

You've got it back to front. We USED to be the Nanny State.

Contrary to what you often read on this site there was an active Ultralight movement in the 20's and 30's, the infamous Flying Flea being one of the big volume products, and there were Australian gyrocopters lurking around the back blocks in the fifties, but all of this was banned due to the high rate of accidents.

The truth is that in Gorton's day, none of us would have been flying the recreational aircraft we know today.

Nor has it been the Governments (and remember, Australia is a collection of six sovereign countries) bringing in more and more rules - they have been the victim of changing times as much as we have.

It was the families of the victims.

It was the cost of caring for a person with head injuries who looks normal, but can't speak properly, whose skin turns scaly, who still has his determination inside him and grabs the car every now and again and takes off, or whose inhibitions have been lowered to the point where he exposes himself and so on.

So the families began sueing, and today will come after you for up to $7 million for a permanently disabling injury, and about $2 million per death, using negligence laws.

And if you knew that what you were doing could result in injury or death, they'll probably encourage a criminal conviction for manslaughter etc. first.

The most important thing to understand about negligence law is that even though you didn't intend to hurt the person, you had a duty of care to ensure that the person couldn't be hurt.

So if you were starting to service a saw and took the guard off, then got a phone call, but didn't neutralise the saw first you were gone.

In Gorton's day an Inspector would come out to check the lifting gear in your workshop, and would issue a ticket, approving it for use for another 12 months etc.

You can see here that if the Inspector made a mistake (or was conned), the Government was going to be the Defendant.

So Governments backed away on virtually everything they controlled.

I had a box seat to this happening. I used to regularly meet with our Minister for Sport and Recreation to discuss Speedway operations, arguably as dangerous as flying, and was critical of the Government changes as they tried to adapt, when the Minister said "Would you like to run your sport".

I jumped in and said yes, and it's been that way ever since - the Government just walked away from it.

What we did learn, as the lawsuits came in was that most people were injured in the spectator area rather than the sport, even down to food poisoning, but that we had to be a lot tougher on the participants if we were to avoid losing our sport because of financial cost.

In the bigger picture, as I recall most of the big claims occurred on children's water slides, and indoor go kart tracks, and those activities have severely diminished today.

Our hard work paid off and our claims history ensured managable public liability premiums to the point where our insurers kept us on after they had refused to insure any more truck operators, and our guys eventually travelled to the US to inspect their speedway tracks, because of our low injury record.

So for RA today the limiting factor is how well you manage risk, and in my opinion it is clearly being managed well because we can still afford to fly.

We do have a rump that can't help themselves though and have to promote risk taking.

Be aware that when an accident does occur, your past history and attitudes can now be very quickly discovered by the lawyers, and the result is either going to help your case, or sink you.

I've seen posts from people who have a string of fatalities behind them, and apparently couldn't care less, but in today's legal climate, they would find it almost impossible to defend a case where there was some doubt.

So it's not a good idea to promote risk taking these days.

Well it's significant that the red covered documentwent to GA pilots (unless ours has been lost in the mail).

I take it no statistics were provided, which is a pity because we all could have learned something other that the obvious motherhood statement.

The ability to see a mouse digging its burrow from 1000 feet, I would suggest is less important than using a good scanning technique - I've seen the side of a lot of pilots' heads as they were taxying towards me.

It's a bit mischievous talking about an urgent GA notification, then pointing at the eyesight of RA Pilots.

I object to the GA bi-annual medical because you have to travel to a remote doctor's location, and pay an exhorbitant fee for an examination which your own doctor is probably qualified to do, and is he up to Optician standard?

I'd suggest virtually all RA pilots would be regularly having their eyes tested by better qualified people at a lower cost and disruption to their lives.

CASA's probably been reading this thread.

Your experience is quite normal. There's quite an extensive thread covering this subject somewhere on the site.

Don't count the hours, it's the conditions which count. As you've already experienced the lighter aircraft moves around a whole lot more - the bigger the wing lift, the more unpredictable.

A lot of guys will boast about how quickly they got through, but usually they've done it in calm conditions - you'll meet most of them again in the accident reports where the undercarriage fails, props strikes, upside down in a ditch etc.

It took me thirty years to get my first windshear, and I was very lucky to have an instructor beside me when it happened.

Certainly be prepared for a lot more hours than a return to GA.

In fact it would be interesting to compare the net costs, even though GA hire rates are much higher.

and you were right on with the line that making regulations simple means a lot more compliance.

If they were following procedure they would have called as they TURNED final, so you would have received warning that the event was about to happen, and seen the top of their wings as they became much more visible.

A couple of people have mentioned busy airports as a means of getting out of making calls, and I would always recommend to those people to get up into the tower of a City Airport and pick up the rhythm of the traffic - difficult, I know for a country flyer, but don't knock something just because you haven't learnt how to do it.

The Final call is handy if you are coming straight in and missed the guy low down on the base leg who forgot to call base, or of you are ahead of someone who has overshot the base turn and is now out there nervous and somewhere behind you. When there are five or more in the circuit it's also going into your subconscious, positioning each aircraft and whether their timing pattern has suddenly changed etc.

"You'll get ..............

"......six months for that" yelled Madam Doubtfire, as she looked at the disappearing Nissan badge heading south, and realised her underpowered Toyota HiLux had no chance of catching Turbo, who deliberately compounded the situation by throwing lolly papers out the window......

Jandakot would be a step or two above what we are talking about, and with a tower to control things, where we have to work out where the other AC are and what they are and what they are about to do, so in some respects, once you get into the rhythm, your life is probably easier.

I was trained at a CTAF, and we make the calls turning downwind, base and final. Cloudsuck calls base and final. What about others? Is there consistency or do we have a situation where some in the circuit will not have radios, some will not use them, some will make some calls, some will make all calls?

Crezzi - I had previously taken the words of my Instructors, the various Training Manuals, and even proprietory CD's on radio procedure to be the requirements.

Now what is a Student Pilot to be told? "You can please yourself whether you call turns, but the other stuff which was also voluntary is about to become mandatory?"

Cloudsuck, I'd say you may have investigated a road accident syndrome some people refer to as the "dance of death" where an incident becomes an accident because of uncertainty.

It's the uncertainty I'd like to remove, and I'm stunned at the way CASA moves at times.

http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?WCMS:STANDARD::pc=PC_90471

click on this link

Tap, tap, tap.....Tap, tap, tap.......Lovaks and Turbo had heard the sound of Ratto's Nikes on the highway, and managed to get away in time, Deccadence was chatting up the ladies, and Ratto was waiting for the next lot of tourists, idly looking through the posts on this site.

Suddenly his eyes lit up; the Sportsczar needed an expert to handle crosswinds!

There was a gale blowing directly across the main RPT runway at SYWG2.

He picked up the phone and dialled the Rivet.......