turboplanner

All he has to do is give us back our original ANO95:10.

Can you get cat's whiskers in digital?

In the southern States May/June is the season when we've become accustomed to completing our flights, and unexpectedly weather intervenes.

Another poster said he had the direct story - gear issue, which would drag it in real quick.

Flooded?

CFIT?

Thanks Paul.

Looks like you'd just about have to be Houdini to pull off a successful forced landing in that country.

Winter is all part of natures cycle. I have sometimes posed the question to some of my city cousins: "when you turn the tap on in February, what do you want to come out?"

You did it a few times in your three holer too FH, I never liked the way it was all visual on the 727 with the parcel shelves spreading apart and creaking. The DC9 never used to do that, so I preferred it.

Come on, you didn't even get to Natfly without getting to a welder!

There's nothing like the excitement of those firsts is there.

I've heard it all chapter and verse Wayne.

When you argue that it's wrong to run an Association behind closed doors, and you then go ahead and do the same, regardless of supposed constraints, you finish up with your credibility in the dustbin, and people will say "better the devil you know".

I just lost interest, don't have to worry about it, but I'm incensed that the members, after the treatment they have received have just been kept in the dark like mushrooms once again by someone who we campaigned for and believed in.

Well, transparency is well and truly dead isn't it.

A private meeting not to prepare material for Members to consider and discuss, but to put in place changes to the constitution as "special resolutions for the next AGM"

Well I guess the members couldn't give a stuff what happens to them, so it probably doesn't matter.

Very rough figures

Fly yourself Gunnedah to Grafton - $1080.00 return

Fly yourself Melbourne to Grafton - $2000.00 return

(You could actually get to Tokyo for half that)

(This for people who are not board members, just donating their own resources to try to achieve an improvement)

Kero Burners

Adelaide - Gold Coast Jetstar return $149.00

Perth - Gold Coast return $189

Melbourne - Gold Coast $119

Mackay - Brisbane $99.00

Electronic Conference

need examples of software

Thanks for the replys. I supose I could spend a fair bit on the strip surface to achieve better performance.

....and the font trays

OK there is already the core of interested people.

They of course have no power, but no power is needed just to come up with a proposal for a reformed Constitution and present it to a General Meeting

That's where the numbers are required to accept all, part or nothing.

The problem with using an open forum is:

As in the case which existed during the last discussions and now, it is not legally realistic to spell out in full the reasons for needing a change.

That then encourages the people causing the problem to band together and activate their touts, so a conflict develops.

Various others who know nothing about any problems and either have fixed ideas or are naturally against change join in what is now an elevated argument.

This attracts the trolls and it becomes an all in fight with 90% of the participants unaware of what the problems were and the relatively straightforward actions needed to fix them and move on to greater success.

The all in fight then leads to inappropriate behaviour, bans and people pulling sensible posts after being attacked by feral latecomers.

Add an outside element who just live for the next opportunity to attack the site owner and a site owner sensitive to the slightest move they make, and you have a situtaion which is not unlike the unfortunate outcome of having the zip on your jeans break open just as you'd stepped inside a Feminist Convention to ask for directions to the nearest Supercheap Auto store. You aren't going to be believed inside and you aren't going to get help until you go outside.

The location is worth discussing here, because the aim is to get a reasonable number of skilled people - maybe up to 10.

What about picking a cheap Jetstar fare location (which probably will be one of the capital cities)?

What about having two or more groups initially (so WA can produce input)?

Never mind, you'll soon make it up.

OK, thanks Ian

Turbo, you have way too much spare time on your hands !.................................................Mej...

It ain't a purfekt world I'm aphraid.

Example Turbo ??.........................................................................Maj...