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.......Turbo is distraught that his good friend Ratso was given a "Creative" by mistake. NES readers will know he doesn't have a creative bone in his body, and the buttons on the software for the Iphone are hopelessly small. What he meant to say was "optimistic"

At this point Turbo wishes to announce that he is heterosexual, following a similar announcement in Queensland. "Us "heteros" have been disadvantaged by Society in recent years just because of the way we talk" he said still stinging from a cartoon in the morning's Herald Sun showing a triumphant Ian Thorpe in the pool after a race with an ugly caricature of Turbo coming in after him with "Homophobia" tattooed on his body.

"This is the Murdoch Press at it again" he said, and 84 forumites gave him an "agree" while 14 ticked "optimistic", and one ticked "helpful", but then......

Better than a windscreen full of rotating ground.I was told years ago that if i was ever caught out in cloud that was down to the deck the method most likely to produce survivable results was to back stick it into a flat spin holding full back stick and full rudder. You will still hit the ground hard but good chance to get out of it. Better than spinning it and tearing the wings off.

Looking at this wreckage i'd say good chance it was nose up spinning wings still attached and tail not twisted off, not to much damage to the crew.

 

Question remains why no recovery back to normal flight.

 

Let the debate begin

You have an EFATO on climb out where you would not expect to have excess speed.

Yes I'd agree with that, fully digital has been available for more than 30 years, and that's about the staff saving compared to non digital.

If the aircraft is off the ground and the bearings are not shot and you are getting a regular vibration which stops on the mains when you pull the brake on then almost certainly either the wheel or the tyre or a combination is out of balance. Facthunter's post #10 is the best so far.

With that setup you will be able to get a very fine balance. Start with the rims, and if they are in balance then you know it's not wheels or bearings and can focus on tyres.

I thought I'd help him in his new found emotional enthusiasm for RAA's bright spots.

........member of the FOI mutual association board and wouldn't say another thing.

The following morning, after being kicked out of his house the night before an sleeping on the verandah with the dogs, Turbo stretched, and shook the ice off, then realised he hadn't lived in Manangatang for 30 years, and uncertainly hobbled hi way to the airfield where the Moron sat one wing down. During the preflight he noticed a few rattles, but that was normal, and he did the usual flight plan which consisted of a leak behind the hangar, a look at the sky and turning on the GPS and fired up the trusty Jab.

He did take a section of the end fence before he realised he was taking off down wind, but thought "everybody else does it", and it might even improve his radio performance.

What he hadn't noticed was the FOI talking to Madge who had been telling him how much better the Association was now that they had some real men in control, and how they'd weeded all the ferals out of the business.

"Well what's that?" asked the FOI pointing to......................

The ones who can't read should not have qualified for a Certificate FT, anyone who has a land line in Australia has access to the internet, and the other three probably would not have an interest in flying. Time moves on.

....afternoon" he said.

"The Moron is a wonderful aircraft, and very self forgiving, but doesn't have a compass, so I bought one at Woolworths, and the AH tells you when up is but doesn't confuse you with angles. After being told by one of the local pubs that I was in Warrnambool, I thought I'd better buy a map; what I thought was the GPS was an electronic fitness gadget which counts the number of steps you take and converts it to calories.

"After leaving Tocumwal I'd tried pretend stepping while I was flying hoping it would come good.

"From Warrnambool I flew over the Alpine region and was tempted to land at Mount Martha which now has an all year bitumen runway. but since the fuel gauge had been showing empty for the last half hour I thought I'd better get home.

"It was a great flight, but unfortunately I fell out of the Moron when I arrived back, and a CASA FoI..........................

Talk to an old tyre guy, but I think if you can get the bearings loose enough that the tyre will fall to the lowest point each time (mark with a piece of chalk) then you can experiment with weights on the opposite side of the diameter. As you get the weight closer of course the friction will beat you. You could also turn up a blank with a centre which is a slide fit into the bearings and each end turned down to a very small diameter, then sit that on two pieces of flat bar beveled to a very small edge (or buy two cheap hunting knives.)

Set it up in the bench with a set of dry bearings, untensioned, and a big note to "change them back"

This just prompted my memory of an interesting interruption to a boring day's work involving these two trucks.

Shell phoned to say the delivery driver of the truck for Tamworth had stopped in Wangaratta for lunch, locking his door with the inside latch, and when he came to get back in both locks wouldn't accept the key. I phoned the Albury dealer who got a local locksmith to drive down, and he unlocked the truck and reported the barrels and Ignition key didn't match.

The quality standard of the trucks was so high that it almost certainly wasn't a build problem, and after thinking it thought it might be possible that the barrels had been removed and mixed up when I had the fleet paint done, so phoned the painter who went out and asked his painters and came back and said no they hadn't mixed them up because each truck's hardware was kept separate. I asked him to do me a favour and ask them one more time, but tell them it would be a lot better for me if they had mixed them up, and sure enough they said they were doing them two at a time, and may have. The other truck was the Kununurra one, which was on a semi trailer west of Ballarat. I got Shell to call the driver and ask him to get up on the trailer and try the key in the lock of the truck and sure enough they didn't work, so I asked him to drop in to the Adelaide dealer on the way through for a barrel change, and got the truck which was nearing Albury by this time to drop in to the dealer to remove the barrels and fit two temporary barrels and a key. The Albury dealer flew his barrels to Adelaide, the Adelaide dealer flew his barrels to Tamworth, and the trucks were key lockable when they went into service.

Andy I didn't get involved in the pipework detail except for COG mass of the equipment and tank, so I could do the W&B calculations and set the tank position and wheelbase, but I suspect that what happens is they crack the delivery valve (which is at the lowest point) before each delivery into a sight glass circuit to check for water before dispensing, and then while the fuel is being delivered open a drain valve from the sight glass into that box, and over the day the window gives them some idea of when to dump the box contents back at the depot (however that's just a guess).

Turbs you'd be impressed by the two AvGas trucks at Tamworth. The contractor is meticulous and keeps them in as-new condition, even though they are several decades old.

I think back then the fuel companies got a contract to ensure refueling at a selection of airports. Moorabbin an Bankstown would have subsidised the regional airports. I think that batch of trucks was the last of that system.

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We had to wait for a refuel (ERSA says there is a credit card operated bowser....but apparently that exited stage left about a year or more ago....hopefully ERSA will reflect that one day) which was done by the guys that do the QLink aircraft servicing and he was on his way back to the airport for the next Dash8... Nice and helpful Guy but suggested that AVGAS availability at Armidale was on its last legs......For those that use Mogas there is a servo directly out front accessible through a key coded gate, about a 30m walk if that.

 

Andy

That's one of my trucks Andy. Set up a batch of them for Shell with specifications and compliancing for the various States. It was always interesting with multiple deals and on this occasion someone decided to change the order of deliveries from the build, so that created a paper shuffle to get the trucks matching up again but Queensland had to be Queensland and wanted a Signatory to fly up to Mount Isa from Brisbane to inspect their "non-complaint" truck. I think I solved that by swearing out an affidavit that the Mount Isa truck was identical to one in Brisbane which they could inspect. That didn't wash, but somehow we fixed it.

Just when the heart palpitations stopped I got a call from Shell Kununurra on a Friday afternoon to say their truck, which had an air assisted range shift had an air leak around the gear lever. This was warranty, the nearest Dealer was Perth, and the word was that they didn't like the Darwin Dealer, so I phoned around but couldn't get a local mechanic, and eventually phoned the Darwin Dealer Service Manager to see if they knew anyone. Got a phone call 8 am Monday from the Darwin Service Manager to say it was all fixed. He'd gone out to the airport, hopped a ride out on the Santos plane which dropped him off in Kununurra, fixed the leak and came back on it's return trip.

This is the link to the EGM transcript from the thread "2013/02/09 EGM Transcript now available"

http://www.raa.asn.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/RA-AUS-9th-Feb-2013-TRANSCRIPT.pdf

A Board of Directors exercises Governance; A Board of Management exercises Management

A Board of Management usually sets Policies; A Board of Management usually sets strategies

A board of Management is usually non-executive; A Board of Management is usually executive

If you have a Board of Directors, they usually hire executives, set the executive salaries and generally sit back and change the executives if things are not going OK.

So effectively you have an additional layer of paid people.

So the underlying question is whether this is affordable; most small companies cannot afford a Board of Directors and the mandatory Director positions are handled by members of the family which owns the company. Where the affordability kicks in depends on the level of turnover of the company being enough to produce the income to generate acceptable profit after the cost of the additional layer of people, so about the $10 million mark.

There are many Incorporated Associations much bigger than RAA operated by Committees, which is what a Board of Management is.

There is nothing to prevent RAA from being a proprietary company with a Board of Directors except the cost paid out by the members; I just did a very rough calculation, and that would lift the subscription to about $356.00 with 8,000 members, more if the membership continues to decline.

So it's really a matter of cost.

However, all of that is irrelevant because the Constitution of RAA specifies a Board of Management.

Rankamateur, your suggestion is intriguing, that would be a cushy job.

What amazes me is that this Association virtually has no volunteers, and has rebuffed them when they have offered their services; most Incorporated Associations are entirely volunteer, but there are enough people each doing a little bit to carry the total work load.

....but he didn't get any further. Before moving the never ending story forward we have to warn that some readers that they may be shocked by what they are about to read, so the 90% in this category should try starting a thread perhaps called RAA Hot Seat, or CASA's Voice, or Madge's I've got the X Factor.

For the rest, sadly we have to advise you that our beloved Moderator Ahlots has become the Lush of Guml Gumly, and although Turbo and Ratso have tried to talk him into moderation, there's no hope, and no he's threatening to get a TATTOO, and................

..........billion or so buckshen - they mtene needed the deutschmarks these daysen.

Turbo was becoming seriously concerned about the way Australia was being overrun by the Europeans. "I could understand how the Germans might want to gut us back" he said "but the French, Italians, and even Russians are pouring trash into the Country. The Colorado has a Fiat engine, the Nissan is built in Spain and has a V6 Renault engine - it's hard to know your enemy these days"

"And we have fifth columnists and quislings amongst us"

"Who" said Col Joye, ever the philosopher.

"Ahlot for a start with his Loxenvargen" replied Turbo, Hatter with his Shitzenputen, Fourass with his Charabancen, .............................."

My mother died when I was eight, I've lost a number of relatives, seven of my friends died in succession road racing, I've lost one of my CFI's to an EFATO, another CFI to wind shear on takeoff, and an Instructor to spatial disorientation over the sea during an official search operation. I've worked for a few decades in truck design and road safety, and in racing safety where I've been at the scene of pointless deaths, but on the other hand have seen and been involved in changes which reduced the toll very substantially.

So you tell a very familiar story to my experience Ballpoint and you tell it very well.

Where someone has a severe shock, such as falling from a roof, being involved in a serious crash, rape, being confronted by a snake or spider, cancer etc a psychological issue called a Phobia can set in. The person will avoid the chance of a repeat to the point that their life is disrupted and sometimes miserable, and depression can set in. They really need a psychologist to deconstruct the even, rationalise it for them, and reconstruct it. I've seen some excellent recoveries in the hands of psychologists, where the person was able to comfortably able to resume their occupation or sport and put the event behind them.

I like the pen example; dealing with it or rationalising it and knowing you can't change the world certainly helps to keep you moving forward.

......in the end it all went flat, and a new generation......Turbo lost his thought train as he recalled a post in the Heathen section a short while ago where someone said someone was putting a turbo on a 912. Frequently Turbo is asked to sign autographs as every famous person must, and it's lucrative too - he charges $10.00 including (Dazzle) GST. Over the years almost every car manufacturer has paid handsomely for his signatures in many different styles, cast them and attached them to their more sporty models. In this way they've been able to add $2,000.00 to the price of each car - $1,000.00 for the car manufacturer, and $1,000.00 for Turbo, who gives it away to charitable causes (mostly General Motors Chevrolet division).

So could anyone tell him who or what is a 912?........they haven't paid and..............

You don't know the difference between a board of management and a board of directors?

It's spreading.

I've just been on the RAA site and noticed the Organizational chart which shows the head as a Board of Directors, which it certainly is not, or?

If you work on an engine you have the duty of care and are liable for it.

If you have acceptable qualifications then a suitable amount of PL Insurance should cover you.