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If this poster is a pilot they are the type of pilot that AF needs to weed out of their volunteer pilot list.  I can only wonder if the two pilots that lost control of their aircraft ever exposed their own family members to the same situations that they allowed to happen with their AF passengers.

 

Insensitive is also a synonym for uncaring & thoughtless.

I think you might have misunderstood; I was referring to insensitive posts, not AF Pilots.

This is not an AF site. Af Pilots are Licensed in General Aviation, and although it is possible that one or two might come to look at this site, it is mainly for Recreatonal flying people who operate smaller two seat aircraft/ultralights/trikes/parachutes who would not qualifly for an Angel Flight.

Or one paramotor and one appropriate paramotor wing for the farm!

 

Two things here:

1. The COG is higher with the above design, so thge software has to work harder/thrust is wasted  for stable flight, whereas hangung in suspension is self stabilising releasing more power to provide lift.

2. If you compare the thrust per kg of the paramotor vs the thrust per kg of a drone motor, I thing it would be surprising; many times the paramotor which really only has to push you along at a sedate speed.

People are fascinated with this need for farmers to fly, and I can remember Norman Hamiltons Jackeroo aircraft which was built for farmers. The fact that there aren't thousands of them out there could point to the lack of a market.

In that era, on a big station a flight around all the troughs was expensive, but practical because if you had a thousand cattle in the paddock you had a few hundred thousand dollars loss if the cattle died of starvation. These days cattle troughs can be electronically monitored, or photographically monitored and the property owner doesn't even need a pilot's licence, or the property owner may hqave to do what I did yesterday; carry a heavy crowbar and a shovel out to bury a sheep.

A drone can angle-in to overcome a small amount of wind, but so far they really fit into the same weather envelope as a powered parachute.

It might be that one day someone will come up with enough power to add a directional prop, and it might be that some day someone will invent a new type of battery to increase range, but today, they are for very localised work, albeit the Police and Fire Services are doing fantastic localised work.

Thanks Brian for putting the human side to this crash; some people are just plain bloody insensitive.

Fortunately the decisions about what is going to happen as a result of  this crash are not going to be in the hands of people with that attitude.

They have no idea of the big picture.

 Speed affects AoA and flaps affect it as well .  With an efficient flap system you have to lower the nose (pitch attitude) as you take more flap until you slow down a bit. IF you do a flapless approach it's much more nose high (and faster) so it's not just the speed. It's both .  Nev

 

The 150 in the vision looked about right to me, with the nose wheel well up out of the way.

You mainly talk about taildraggers, so might not be aware that in GA we are trained (ro should be) for the nose attitude in flap and flapless configurations.

If you talk on here about "lowering the nose" you could inadvertently have people lower the nose right into the danger zone for wheelbarrowing. Several years ago a small grouips started point and shoot, aiming the nose fof the runway "because that's what jet airlines and fighters do", and there was a series of broken nosewheels as people tried it out.

The Cessna lands very well on the mains, but a lot of 172s are held too flat and use up about twice the runway length they need to.

The Cherokee lands quite nose high. and can be reefed back in ground effect about a foot from the ground to produce a nice chirp as the wheels spin up, and sits firmly on the ground as the big wing acts like a smow plough.

Wikipedia is a quick starting point to go off and find real facts; but like Ancestry you are in the hands of the unknown writers,

Some spend their life on research for the truth, and spend their waking hours editing Wikipedia "facts" to correct errors.

Others use it to peddle lies, and two groups stand out to me;

• Environmental extremists who write the story based on lies to suit their purpose.
   
  
• Developers who destroy facts by editing them out, and write versions or show maps which are advantageous to them, and bait for the careless.
   
  

Is it true that airliners inject water at take-off power for cooling? If so, why don't smaller planes use this too?

 

Even if you didn't inject it into the engine, a small amount into the cooling air would be very effective I reckon.

 

Cost, complication and the nuisance of filling up the water bottle, when you can achieve the same result by using the fuel to do it.

…None of them had attacked shipping, and only the South Africans had flown the Chance Vought Corsair. “It’s just laik gitting on a Horse” said Fanie, “thar all the seim”.

“Bullshut” said Eye Bolt.

“Since no one else been in Naval battle, I will fly the first attack and prove tactics” said Nob.

“How are you on your landings?” asked Arnie rather cruelly.

“But you mussed the shep and that’s how you're  here” said Eye Bolt with that unique NZ diplomacy.

As much as flying a Brumby at some hessian stretched along a road could be considered battle training, Nob judged they were ready and Turbo took them in his cruiser to the Captain’s Holiday Shack, which was difficult because Cowra wasn’t on the coast.

They arrived just as the first Corsair was completed, and Nob decided he would do the start up in the dark, so another concert was organised by Soll Lee.

The Corsair was rolled out on to the sand, and Nob started looking very serious; he’d managed to find his old Imperial Japanese flying suit, and the white head band marked by a red dot, representing the pilot’s contribution in blood for the emperor, and with the Japanese characters “Namba Wun”

[Turbo warns international travellers to be careful of Japanese humour. He once travelled to Japan with a training group. The instructor explained the huge significance of the white head band and it was passed around for all to take their turn putting it on. “We will give to the winner with tea ceremony’ said the instructor.

Turbo didn’t win that day, but took a photo of the successful trainee  with the historic head band on.

When he returned to Auatralia and showed his photos to the residents Australians they felt about laughing. “It say dickhead!” they roared.]

Nobushi squinted his eyes, primed the engine, and pressed the starter, and the big13 feet 4 inch Hamilton prop began to revolve, and revolve, and revolve.

“GIVE UT SOME FUEL”  yelled Eye Bolt, and Nob could be seen furiously pumping.

Suddenly there was a BANG!!!!! And fifty thousand Goony Birds rose from the small trees.

“SSSSSHHHHHH!! Said the Captain

Then the big Pratt and Whitney fired on one of its 8 cylinders and gradually they all came on line.

Tomorrow they would fit the guns and bomb racks and……..

Corsair start up and flight (not Nob's)

Today's battery technology only allows a few minutes in the air, so I wouldn't be getting too excited about Dronegate.

It's a spin doctor's paradise though, and don't forget Peter Gibson is the spin doctor.

Well anything other than disrupting an RAA election process.

Go and fix the GFA

Quadcopter type UAVs are going to be a huge problem for CASA in the next few years as they get more sophisticated

 

So far so good. If you think the regulators are tough in RA, you should go and visit an RC field.

…he was a public servant recording the performance of the Indian Railway system for His Majesty’s Government.

Turbo was one of the six people who supported Rag and Tube aircraft out of the thousand in the whole of RAA.

He’d bought an old Tyro from bull at Bone, and as he took off from the Captain’s holiday shack driveway, he knew he would have to find the cave, and he would have to fly lower than he’d even flown before. Sighting the huge cave, just 50 metres from the end of the runway, and seeing a pathetically small cross carved in the sand at the entrance to the cave,  and Ahlox sitting on the beach on the opposite side of the island he landed on the beach, picked up the fiery and flew back to Captain’s shack.

The A310 took off without incident, 50% overloaded, with Foxhunter at the controls, resplendent in his old TAA jacket and cap. He said he didn’t need a co-pilot but insisted on having two hostesses. It had cost Turbo another million, but it solved a problem. The landing was equally uneventful, with General Ho Lee saying “Look Sol Lee, there’s one of those volcanic effects you talked about.”  It was little wonder that Turbo was one of the CIA’s most respected agents, he always came through, but….

The A310 Taxied to the entrance of the cave, where a cradle of four Corsair wheels was fitted, the wings cut off, and rolled into the cave. No one would know an aircraft was on the island.

The Corsair assembly began next morning.

Back in Cowra, Nob was having trouble with his pilots….

Turbo’s Tyro:

Leaf back through the pages of this site, and you will find people (some of them now extinct) doing more dangerous things to and in approved aircraft.

Based on my drone experience, they've:

• tested the drone-in-a-tree soft landing method, which I'm now very proficient at
   
  
• achieved a pendulum stability method to ease the limitations of software driven stability
   
  
• solved the instability problem with locating the props below the operator, as well as the amputation problem
   
  
• beaten Uber and a host of "big corporations" who've produced renderings of flying cars which defy all aviation laws
   
  

Having your aircraft fall on you can be prevented by sitting the chair in an aluminium frame.

The achilles heels of drones are:

• Like ballons, the go with the wind gust whether that's up, down or sideways
   
  
• When the props stop it's straight down, no glide, no control over attitude, and fast, but then look what ballistic chutes have done for the luxury single class.
   
  

Somehow a long winded reply from me disappeared into the ether and I won’t have time to repeat it all but the crux was:

 

The NDIS is $3billion underfunded in forward estimates and is being narrowed in its scope to deal with the unexpected huge take up. 

 

Theres no big wad of money going anywhere for funding anything outside of the narrowing range of defined disability.

 

There's an old saying: "Two men looking out through bars; one saw mud, the other stars"

 

NDIS for the governments who've managed its spectacular birth has been like a horse with wings.

 

If you don't think there's a big wad of money going anywhere that's fine, it doesn't have to.

 

 

It doesn’t cover middle duration potentially  curable medical issues of the type that AF takes people to the cities for.

 

No

 

Even Rehab for stroke is not something that is a one size fits all and highly specialised modern stroke rehab is by the same limitations I mentioned before limited to big cities.

 

 

No 

 

Sub-optimal broad treatment is like everything else ( shopping, banking and entertainment) something regional people accept if they want to maintain jobs and family in the regions.

 

 

Yes

 

Well that makes another one. The one I'm thinking about was definitely a 172, I think from the South East.

Hi Alex.

 

Im confused. If you're standing for election on a 'neutral' platform  and essentially supportive of current board direction, why not just put your support behind the current board team and candidates? 

 

Seeking election implies you feel you have a contribution to make that will  somehow strengthen the board. What changes would you want to see to make the board better than it is now?

 

Best of luck

 

Alan 

 

Not necessarily; a neutral position implies someone who, when they are elected, and have ALL the facts including the internal ones we never see, will look at each item of business on its merits and vote for the best outcome for the shareholders - you.  If that's what he intends to do, that's the very best outcome members could wish for.  Someone with a fixed "platform" can hold an organisation back for years.

Bit of a circular argument you have there......Don't want the light end of GA aircraft because they are too expensive to maintain. Only expensive to maintain because they are under GA.

 

A Piper Cherokee is about as complicated as  a Drifter BTW.

 

 The idea behind stall speeds and flight characteristics and limitations  reducing risk is sound, but the maintenance argument is a hollow one that makes no sense at all.

 

In that case Drifters should be maintained by LAMEs

.......the Captain's loud after-dinner ablutions, which earned him the nick-name of the Bombay Banger when...

All valid points and I don't disagree with any of them.

My thoughts were based on a case where a woman's husband had a workplace accident and suffered a stroke and was in a capital city rehabilitation centre. She'd racked up nearly 40,000 kilometres driving to the city to see him, she had teenage children who were over the situation and acting up and of course the husband had been the bread winner. The family was breaking up, and she resorted to a desperate Facebook video appeal for help. Within a week the husband had been moved to a regional city, still an hour away but well within her ability to get there after hours or at the weekend, and she was able to get a job to pay the bills. etc The transformation to her life of today was magic.

My comments were based on this expansion of treatment facilities into strategic country areas, and the success it is having, which in turn is fueling demand for a massive expansion. Wouldn't help in the areas you mentioned with today's structure, but there will be a big ball of money coming from the taxpayer as people see the benefits of what has started to occur with NDIS, whether it's getting people to the cities or finding away to bring the city skills to the country.

.....was now two days ago, and there had been no word from Ahlox.

The inflatable cruised across the channel in darkness and hit the reef with a resounding “THUMP!”  four kilometres north of the Xian which by this time was at General Quarters with all Huawei modems listening for the slightest sound. The Captain had been at the helm. “Hard to believe you’re descended from Captain Cook” said Turbo sarcastically. “Shut up!” yelled the Captain and a searchlight started to sweep down the coast. Quickly they stowed the boat and started to walk inland to look for the cave. The whites of two big eyes shone in the moonlight; it was Ahlox.

“Well?” queried the Captain, “Where’s the cave?”

“I can’t find it” wailed Ahlox (it was the story of his life); I know I walked about half a mile through impenetrable jungle and I marked the spot with an “X” so I could find it again, but……….”

Lok Se and An Lok had managed to round up a build crew, finds the spares they needed, purchase the tools and assembly machinery and load the A310 which had previously been a Nigerian airliner used by the CIA to trap drug runners in the Congo. There wasn’t a panel that wasn’t loose, rain poured in through the windscreens, it flew one wing low and nose slightly up, wallowed badly on landing and taxied in a continuous S pattern. No one would volunteer to fly it. Turbo had realised there was only one man for this job; Foxhunter. Turbo explained to the Captain that the TAA three holers that Foxhunter flew were very similar and his landings were so rough that  no one would notice the deviations. “Besides”, he said, “I’m fitting all our aircraft with Geofence 2322, supplied by my company Turbine Geofencing Corporation, so all our aircraft including the Corsairs can fly straight through the Chinese defences undetected, but it also blocks GPS signals and old Foxy was a wizz with the wizz wheel.

“But they’ll SEE you when you land on the runway!” blustered the Captain, there’s not a tree higher than three metres on the ISLAND!”

“How come you and Ahlox couldn’t find the cave then” replied Turbo “We’ve camouflaged the 310 by painted it black with a striped line down the centre, so if Foxy can somehow keep it straight, the Chinese will just think they are seeing a volcanic ripple. Sol Lee is going to talk about ripples in the Officers Mess on Fiery Cross Reef tonight.

“But what about the reverse thrust noise” the Captain persisted. Not a problem, Soll Lee has organised a concert for 2100 and promised to sing in Mandarin.

“You think of everything” said an admiring Captain, and …………….

Where did the guy who took off into forecast turbulence and killed himself operate from?

 

It was a 172 from the South East or Western District, decided to go over the hills instead of around them.

Never a serious injury, let alone a fatality at Gawler in my 50 years as a member there. Lots of deaths, mostly old ex-members with illnesses. A couple on the roads. A couple at other gliding places.

 

The over-allocation of resources to air safety in comparison to the risk is so striking that there must be an evolutionary reason for it.

 

My guess is that our arboreal ancestors often died from falls, and in support of that notion is the evidence that babies are born with a fear of falling, one of the very few inborn fears we have.

 

Where did the guy who took off into forecast turbulence and killed himself operate from?

Families are decimated by road accidents every day of the week. So a few die in air crashes.....who cares? 

 

If if we let CASA and it’s ATSB lapdog regulate road transport, we’d all be driving at 30 kph daylight hours only, wearing crash helmets, 4 point harnesses and roll bars. We would also have to stop when it was wet.

 

Everything in life carries risk. Get used to it.

 

It’s already done, called the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator; about 600 employees already, and steadily taking over State functions. If you want an Overwidth permit in Victoria now someone in Brisbane will be squinting over a desk wondering where Digby is. 

Hope you're right, Turbs.

 

Incidentally, a little isolated town where I worked for a few years passed the hat to buy a community GA aircraft, presumably for AF and similar purposes. Hope their initiative isn't stymied by the bureaucrats.

 

I suspect the issues the NDIS are facing, with an uptake requiring a budget bigger than the moon landings will eventually solve the problems. There is an economic base forming which is likely to lead to more decentralised medical coverage.

Looks like more people will be making long road trips, with lots of night driving. 

 

Not necessarily, it can be managed with some restructuring (combination of financial/operations)