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Food for thought

RAAus membership / authority to fly $245

Craft registration $155

Total $400

Gliding after primary costs

GFA memberships $300

Club membership $250

Annual flight review $100 not biennial

Tug fee between $20 to $50 per launch

Total $650 I do not know the cost of reg

GA

After the primary costs

Lic nil cost

Reg Nil cost

Plus government free funding support

Through CASA

Just saying , interesting though

could office bearers please post their flyin and Bbq etc in the calendar so New chums can plan to go to such events.

Our club has had a change office bearers and they to do not know what to advise our members. You never know you might get a few more attendees

as an office bearer of an Aeroclub i am having trouble notifying our members of events as not enough info listed or should I be looking somewhere else please help. Albury has a Bbq last Friday of the month at the club house 1800 on wards please feel welcome.

It’s been fun , I am finish with this how no more comments from me

I am looking for some information and any comments on fitting a inflight adjustable prop to a Lycoming O235.

Things like weight and reliability

My last comment on this matter, I pay and contribute to my local air facility , I am involved with our local flying club , I am a member of an other flying club , keeping this in mind , I am contributing to the maintenance and financial operation of these air facilities. My piont is, I am paying at my home airport facilities either by cash support or my free labour , payments like the local council for hangar rates and ground lease fees which appears to rise and rise yearly and an annual airport landing fee ,not to mention Air services fees.

Now it’s expected that I pay for someone else’s facility ,that’s double dipping.

I simply say ; You pay for yours and I pay for mine we are even .

And soon you can be part of RA , I could go on but I will leave it

I have had a thought , a revaluation really . Let’s have all VH planes pay a yearly Reg fee, license fee and share this money around the needy airport operators.that would solve the problem . VH plane operators currently save money by not paying registration fees like we do in RA , so let’s collect $ 280 a year licence fee and say another $150 registration fee , hell , what a great idea. Correct me if I am wrong , but fuel companies own petrol pumping equipment. Well the do around here anyway

Can anyone offer light on how many aircraft land at these out field airports per period of time. Not resident aircraft but air craft landing for a stop over. Just an average , I think people would be surprised at the small number. So all this wind blowing is likely to be over a insignificant amount of money. As I have said before, planes have to take off from some where and they are most likely are contributing to that site , so do we need to pay twice? I see it maybe different to some, airport facilities are for everyone, car clubs, flying doctors, fire, ambos, and the small amount of money returned after spending time tracking down payments is ludicrous

Not being fully conversed with the workings of flying organisations like RA , SAAA or AOPA. It seems to me that these organisations are hunting and gathering members in a race to be the biggest . At the end of the day the pressures from compliance , aircraft running expenses, governance ,landing fees , airport fees , air craft housing costs ,will keep a large number of potential flyers away from this exciting past time.

Organisations such as above should be fighting for our rights to use airports that are alread owned by the community , Airports like Shepparton and Maryborough these communities received government money to build the air ports , our money , why do we need to pay again or if payment is necessary to run these leisure/business centres then council should start charging push bike riders for using the roads and cycle tracks they do not contribute to. Landing fees could be considered discriminatory against one group of the community.

If these organisations as Listed are for pilots and flying they would start to pursue cost reduction in areas such landing fees or the flying community Will not the attract younger people.

It Is ok for older folk to spend their leisure time and money in pursuit of flying pleasures and aircraft ownership but the young people have more options to spend their hard earned cash and flying is see as cost prohibitive.

So inclusion make it easy , make it affordable and stop this erosion of our rights to visit cities/towns at minimal expense.

Landing fees, airport fees, air services fees, fight reviews , association fees , medicals and aircraft hire or ownership costs are just too great for the next generation of flyers and I have not mentioned fuel costs .

Flying associations please put more effort into the above or watch this flying pleasure fade away and die.

So do you have the Brumby yet or is it still coming,? mine took almost 2 years to get .

Though I am happy with the plane ,you might be advised to be selective with the information the factory might forward.

Will you receive a Chinese build or a cowra unit? What are your build details ?

Ooops. Sorry. I thought I’d replied... Since my initial post last year I’ve ordered a Brumby 610. Waiting (impatiently) for delivery in late-March.I’ve had access to a 610 through the Cowra aero club and enjoyed developing my piloting skills and local ventures immensely.The flight performance and behaviours of the aircraft - hlghlighed on the manufacturer’s website and numerous other reviews - are spot-on in my still novice flyer’s opinion.

 

I’ve been looking for a comfortable (high wing) touring aircraft. I’m 6’3” with long leg-length. Finding a LSA cockpit with ease of entry/exit and comfortable seated position for x-cty transits has been a challenge. The 610 ticks the right boxes.

 

I gained my RPC in a Lightplanes FK9 and continued my skills development in an A22 Foxbat for most of last year. Both great aircraft and I probably have a sentiment bias for the FK9. The Foxbat is an equally great aircraft to fly but I felt less comfortable in the reclined seated position due to my stature. I much perfer the conventional seated position in the Brumby than the sports car position of the Foxbat (for me).

 

Payload isn’t a major consideration. I’ll be flying solo for a greater amount of time.

 

The final and very important factor - for me - was supporting Australian design and manufacturing. Although my aircraft is part of of the new generation of Brumby aircraft initially manufactuted in their China-based factory. It remains Australian-designed for Australian conditions, and the final assembly, internal fit out and modifications will be done at their Cowra factory by local employees. As will all after sales requirements. So I feel I’m still contributing to the local economy as best I can.

 

Cheers, Graeme

Friday 27 July my self and a friend flew into Wangaratta airport, we were met by friendly people who offered us a drink and light conversation about the Wangaratta aero. We also had the pleasure to meet Steve Hobby a local lame who lent us a car, which was very gracious of if him. On our return, an offer from Steve and his wife plus the Bill Hall and his wife to join them for a bbq , Bill is the president of the Wangaratta Aero Club. If you call into YWGT they will make you free welcome .

Landing fees are objectionable as they penalise only pilots. Bike riders , disable vehicles etc , do not pay anything and are a greater risk for the council, not to mention use more council infrastructure than the flying family.

People who are bleating about being charged or volunteering around their hangars , your not on your own, every pilot is paying or working around their hangar . Do you want visiting pilots who spend money in your town to pay twice. You pay for yours , I pay for mine and it’s even . Come and land with me and wait for me to come out and bend your ear about all things aeronautical , then we will have cup of tea together. Flyers are fantastic people

Shepparton airport will go the same way as the mall (empty) . I have stopped flying into Shepp since landing fees and I own a business in Shepp . Landing fees plus cab fares its cheaper and more convenient to drive. All I will say is ,I pay rates too.

Do you have any performance figures. I learned to fly in a Foxbat and I like the plane, however I do want to travel and l’m interested in the brumby, it has nice lines and looks good, to me anyway. I think the Foxbat is a bit slow for long trips.

Do you have any performance figures. I learned to fly in a Foxbat and I like the plane, however I do want to travel and l’m interested in the brumby, it has nice lines and looks good, to me anyway. I think the Foxbat is a bit slow for long trips.

Wide cabs , good vision , stable, good under carriage.

My Airmaster is rated at 60 Hp per blade in an AP430 hub, how many Hp is your small Lycoming?

Who makes electric inflight adjustable props for small Lycoming’s

What do you like most about the Brumby?

You might try a dynamic prop balance also put nose con on a flat surface and see which way it rolls it will roll to heavy side, out of balance.

I always use the red fibre washers under the heads on a fibreglass spinner. Have not had a problem since doing it this way.

An Air Master inflight adjustable pitch prop was fitted to a Brumby powered by a 912 and OKed by factory with spectacular results. Better climb rate and a 15 knts increase in cruise speed . The owner is very happy

A flying school I used to hire aircraft from sold a Rotax 912 powered high wing not long after buying it. The reason was it had a very poor climb performance sure they could have put a finer pitch prop on it but cruise speed would have suffered.Pretty heavy empty weight.

Dazza , that’s a shame about the flying school as I thought Brumby designed their equipment to be an air craft most suited to flying schools. Well that’s what the advert refers

Good try on the bolt heads but that is/ was not the problem ,the problem was / is the front support did not fit properly and allowed the spinner to move through the torque of the engine and then the spinner was out of balance and that’s why it split the backing plate as well , yes the spinner was fitted with washers and it’s a spun metallic spinner