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There is a very long list of asymetric training going wrong in all types of multi engine aircraft. 

 

 

WWW.ABC.NET.AU

Three experienced pilots including a safety expert killed in a plane crash in SA in 2017 were conducting a high-risk engine failure simulation at a much lower altitude than recommended, an investigation finds.

 

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Also - the crash of VH-ANB, a, EMB-120ER Brasilia, at Darwin in 2010. The PIC pulled the left engine power lever to flight idle, rather than zero thrust, which effectively turned a simulated engine failure into a combined engine and propellor feathering failure.

It seems incredible that two highly qualified Captains would indulge in such a dangerous simulation at such low altitude, in an aircraft that is noted to be difficult to control after a left engine failure alone - let alone a combined engine and propellor feathering failure.

 

https://www.atsb.gov.au/sites/default/files/media/3546615/ao-2010-019.pdf

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Turbo Props can have a lot of drag due to high amount (ratio) of  the Gearing . With a flame out the drag can be multiples of the Max thrust. That's why they have Auto-Feather  Min control speed V(mca) is not a lot  different on either side. but with both engines turning in the same direction,  One side will be Better than the Other. IF you are Below the Min speed the  full rudder application will be insufficient to stop Yaw and roll to the dead engine side,. Nev

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I read the residents are now complaining how dangerous training is around Parafield. Doesn't seem that long ago it was out on it's own with not much around.

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I started flying out of Parafield in 1980 and have lived under the final leg of 21R for 35 years. There has always been idiots and whingers who complain about the noise etc. Around 1992 a guy knocked on my door and wanted me to sign a petition to get rid of Parafield airport. I told him I was a pilot and few out of Parafield regularly, the idiot abused me a buggered off. I believe Aldinga aerodrome has similar problems. People move to the country and then complain about cows mooing!!!

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We have one here at Gawler Ken, a guy approached me at home (I live alongside the airfield) with a petition which he was sure I would eagerly sign, boy was he wrong. The Gawler Airfield has been here longer than than he’s been living and it’s still here.

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Used to get the same when I lived near Moorabbin.

 

I'd get some funny looks when I asked if they had noticed the airport was there before they moved in to the area

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You will Get Airfields closed to Build Business and housing but Never the reverse.. People want the benefits with none of the discomfort. Sell off the Airport and develop it. Land values go UP and they  SELL and Move anyhow. Passengers want Airports to Operate 24/7 and with International flights, that's a Necessity. Airports are High investment Land and it's got to make A return and provide a service. That's how a Modern society Functions. Nev

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Airports were given to councils along with a large donation to keep them running as airfields and a community asset. Councils have now turned them into commercial real estate for personal gain. Privatise and perish.....

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Councils are a good example of A failure of democracy. The structure eventually serves the people running it whose salaries are Linked to rate INCOME. Shire Officers.   You need a Permit for everything and each time it Costs Money. Funny that, and the most common word there is NO. Their ability to slow things down or stop them, is Unmatched. It's a sheltered Workshop.  Nev

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