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On 04/08/2025 at 9:54 PM, skippydiesel said:

Thanks OneTrack,

 

"Found his post, it was in March, he has 17.5mm Mackay hose."

 

Now that you mention it, I do have some vague recollection. Two points;

  • I will never fit a slightly overlarge hose but will, if needs be, try a slightly small eg 16.5mm ID. Reason being,  a slightly small ID will seal against the spigot, fare better than a slightly large ID.
  • If aged memory serves there were questions about the age of this hose - may have been around the time that I found out "rubber" hose actually has a shelf life.

😈

Has nobody measured the spigots? They are all 18mm OD. A 16mm ID hose will be a very tight fit given the barb OD is 19mm

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7 minutes ago, Parry said:

Has nobody measured the spigots? They are all 18mm OD. A 16mm ID hose will be a very tight fit given the barb OD is 19mm

Confession time: No I have never measured the spigots (oil/fuel/coolant) just gone with the Rotax specification - my error.

 

It will be a few years (about 2 ) before I get the chance to measure the spigots but will try & remember to do so.

 

Just be a bit careful - some spigots , on the same system, are a diffrent OD.

 

A 16.5mm ID hose should fit a 17 mm OD spigot but as you say, asking a bit much if its actually 18/19mm.

 

My observation still stands - never go for a larger ID hose (even by a little) than the spigot OD - you will be trying to get the clamp to do the sealing for you, rather than the hose/spigot interaction..😈

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On 05/08/2025 at 6:28 PM, Moneybox said:

 

Yes Skippy, I'm pretty sure I bought a couple of 90° hoses but I can't find the invoice.

 

25mmhose.thumb.jpg.dbd6e87327fade5a4089acd2af12f8a0.jpg

 

I bought four of these 25mm hoses as well. If Sandra finds the invoice I'll post the list but anything not marked for the plane has just gone into a file of assorted invoices never to be seen again.

Obviously it varies between different setups, but for inspiration this is my list of hoses for my Bushcat

 

03-0010 as per moneybox

01-0007

02-0951 x 2 (datsun 120y)

 

all of these were cut to suit

Posted
23 hours ago, danny_galaga said:

Obviously it varies between different setups, but for inspiration this is my list of hoses for my Bushcat

 

03-0010 as per moneybox

01-0007

02-0951 x 2 (datsun 120y)

 

all of these were cut to suit

All of the above are Gates coolant  25mm ID.

 

The hard to find ones are  Gates Coolant 17mm ID - if you have found any of these  - please post the part numbers.😈

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It would be great if we could come up with a list of Gates 17mm ID Coolant (heater) Hose 

 

Moneybox has given us two 17mm pre shaped hoses;

  • 02- 1415
  • 02- 1562

The shapes  (even with cutting to length) will not suit everyone's application, so a few more,  especially ones with a longish straight section, would cover more.😈

 

 

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Some  17mm ID Gates Molded Heater Hose contributions ;

  • 24081 - 724mm long
  • 23760 - 482mm
  • 19498 -  322mm
  • 19489 - 345mm
  • 19497 -429mm
  • 19311 - 452mm
  • 19457 - 462mm
  • 19310 - 463mm
  • 19413 - 508mm
  • 19486 - 559mm
  • 19414 - 609mm

From https://www.gatesaustralia.com.au/~/media/files/gates/automotive/catalogs/automotive/gates-molded-coolant-hose-id-guide_web.pdf

 

Clamed specification -40 Deg. C +135 Deg. C

 

All molded in various shapes - you will have to pick the ones that best meet your needs😈

 

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Turns out the aforementioned list has a lot of discontinued 17mm (.65-.66") ID hoses.

 

For currency you may be better cross checking between:

 https://www.maxiparts.com.au/Documents/Supplier/Gates/gates-molded-coolant-hose-id-guide_web.pdf?srsltid=AfmBOoqVQCrOxyL-PSBb3p2dyjN8JTcyHwveCFPfpouutmQ076b1I4vA

(Gives shape & dimensions in inches)

And

https://www.gates.com/us/en/fluid-power/engine-hose/heater-hose.p.4257-000000-000001.v.4257-01361.html

(Gives currency, shape , dimensions in mm & inches)

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WARNING:

It seems that I have been connecting with Gates USA web sites. Many/Most of the above details & par numbers do not apply to AU.

 

Gates AU  coolant (radiator 25 mm ID /other 17 mm ID) part numbers would seem to start with 02- or 03-

 

My apologies

 

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Thought I might summarise Gates 25mm ID radiator hose (obtainable from REPCO & others)

 

Gates PN:  ID: Length:  Car :  Position

02-0058  25 255  Barina Lower

02-1029 25 710 Accord Lower

02- 1032 25 500 Accord  Upper

02- 0961 25 325 CRX Upper

02-0963 25 510 CRX Lower

05-1797 Subaru Outback 3L

0501235 ?

05-0725 ?

 

 Multi Fit 90 degree  bend, in diffrent "Arm"  length options

  • PN 03-0010 ID 25.4mm, Arm 1 125mm, Arm 2 125mm  
  • PN 03-0011 ID 25.4mm, Arm 1 300mm,  Arm 2 300mm 

Multi Fit with two bends, a 135 & 90 degree

  • PN01-007 ID 25mm Length 550 ($?)

25 mm OD Gates coolant hose connectors

  • Straight PN28606 
  • Elbow PN28626 
  • Tee PN28638 

NOTE : DOUBLE CHECK DIMENSIONS BEFOR PURCHASE 😈

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A few Gates ID 17 mm "heater"/coolant hoses that are available in AU (including those found by Moneybox);

 

Note: All are "molded" /shaped - You will have to pick the ones that best suit your application and cut to length.

 

Gates Part Number

ID all 17mm except otherwise

Length mm

 

 

 

02 - 0932

 

185

02 - 1554

17/18

340

02 - 1538

17.5

580

02 - 1415

 

280

02 - 1562

 

443

02 - 1460

 

390

02 - 1343

 

275

02 - 1499

 

425

 

Check prices  - REPCO, Sparesbox, SCA, etc are all stocking Gates hoses these days.

 

It may be possible to purchase Gates straight ID 17mm coolant/heater hose in the UK & US

 

NOTE: DOUBLE CHECK ID BEFOR PURCHASE

 

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On 16/09/2025 at 3:38 PM, skippydiesel said:

A few Gates ID 17 mm "heater"/coolant hoses that are available in AU (including those found by Moneybox);

 

Note: All are "molded" /shaped - You will have to pick the ones that best suit your application and cut to length.

 

Gates Part Number

ID all 17mm except otherwise

Length mm

 

 

 

02 - 0932

 

185

02 - 1554

17/18

340

02 - 1538

17.5

580

02 - 1415

 

280

02 - 1562

 

443

02 - 1460

 

390

02 - 1343

 

275

02 - 1499

 

425

 

Check prices  - REPCO, Sparesbox, SCA, etc are all stocking Gates hoses these days.

 

It may be possible to purchase Gates straight ID 17mm coolant/heater hose in the UK & US

 

NOTE: DOUBLE CHECK ID BEFOR PURCHASE

 

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I have about 40 mts left. 17. Mackay.

Shaped 17mm hoses for my isuzu trucks are $800 each.

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I have been curious about the Max temperature that my Rotax Ignition modules are subjected to.

 

FYI: Rotax 912ULS Max Temp. 80C

 

Found non reversible (irreversible) temperature strips used in automotive applications, for a reasonable price (compared with other suppliers);

 

https://www.autosport.com.au/racetech-temperature-indicator-strips

 

I already have a single thermocouple,  measuring under cowl temperature, at the one location - top of firewall.

 

The max temp may not be in the air but on the ground, after shut down - will be interesting to see either way.

 

😈

 

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2 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

I have been curious about the Max temperature that my Rotax Ignition modules are subjected to.

 

FYI: Rotax 912ULS Max Temp. 80C

 

Found non reversible (irreversible) temperature strips used in automotive applications, for a reasonable price (compared with other suppliers);

 

https://www.autosport.com.au/racetech-temperature-indicator-strips

 

I already have a single thermocouple,  measuring under cowl temperature, at the one location - top of firewall.

 

The max temp may not be in the air but on the ground, after shut down - will be interesting to see either way.

 

😈

 

Great idea, although straying quite far from the original intent of my thread. I might buy some of those, I'm.curious about the difference in temps between the two modules, since I imagine the top one gets more cooling airflow 

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On 13/03/2023 at 6:36 PM, danny_galaga said:

 

Another reason to keep a list is that there is always a chance that one day, that kit factory won't be around anymore. Obviously I hope they outlive my ownership of the plane 😄 . But if it comes to it, it would be nice to have this list for some of the spare parts I may need down the track.

So funny I wrote this next, indeed, the kit manufacturer did end up going broke 😄

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Hi Danny G,

 

I always thought your initiating this topic was/is a stroke of geniuses. However it needs to be summarised into a logical, easily searched, list, free from the tangential debate that has accompaniment some of the entries.

 

The big question is - how to go about making the list???

 

A start would be dividing the list into common aircraft, engines (some entries would likly be under two or more headings)

 

What think you?

 

PS - Cost effective, temperature strips may be a valuable item in managing your engines heat impact on vulnerable/expensive components.

 

😈

 

 

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When I first started the thread, it was just to say to folk it's a good idea to compile a spare parts list for their aircraft. But of course many of us are running Rotax so those parts will be common to many aircraft.

I think the only way would be to trawl through not just this thread but many sources and compile a list. The problem being of course there will always be new sources. 

 

Talking of Rotax parts, was it you that was using the Vauxhall/Opel fuel pump? If so, how's it going so far?

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This is the list so far, rather scatologically ordered, for my Bushcat. But there are many Rotax options listed:

 

 

 

Suppliers:

Loravia.com - Rotax engine parts, France


Individual parts:

Radiator cap is BMW P/N 17112345074 at about 1/2 of the Rotax price (fitted to BMW motorcycle F650 with Rotax engine)."

 

Radiator hose, section 106:

Note: gates 03-0010 and 01-0007 are 25mm ID and will replace the rear two bends and the right hand side short straight piece near the starter. 25mm is a much better fit.

2 X 02-0951 (Datsun 120y lower radiator). Leftover 70 something degree bend from above 01-0007 goes on right hand radiator tank outlet.

 

Oil coolers:

Manufactured by setrab

Part no. 50-110-7612 (Setrab Oil Cooler 210mm 10 row M22 female. Setrab part number 50-110-7612.) X 2. One has the brackets cut off.


Radiator:

Manufactured by setrab

Part no. 50-925-7612

 

Fuel line:

Gates barricade carburettor 


Regulator/rectifier:

CARR5115 from vectriqparts.com.au


Exhaust nuts:

OEM - Bert Flood .  the part number is 842950 - Lock Nut M8-SW12


Starter relay:

Denso part 182800-1950

Same relay is used on Rotax Max Evo go kart engines. Much easier to find searching for that .

Nippon Denso. Can get from Ecclestone aviation UK

 

Starter motor (not 100% sure about this one). Aftermarket..suits BMW f650

https://www.stein-dinse.com/en/item-1-1524043.html#prettyPhoto

 

Fuel pump:

Pierburg 7.02242.32.0 - Fuel Pump

https://spareto.com/products/pierburg-fuel-pump/7-02242-32-0

Not branded as Rotax, but from the same manufacturer. 

 

Spark plugs:

DCPR7E NGK

Dcpr8e currently on my engine 

as far as I know, there is no 'aircraft' version of this so just get them from Repco.

 

90 degree carby tube for choke:

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005004164377398.html?spm=a2g0n.order_detail.order_detail_item.3.604cf19cHB72xq

ZS Racing 90-degree Throttle Cable Adjuster For PHBG Keihin PWK PJ PWM PE Mikuni TM VM Carburetor Spare Parts

 

Water/oil temp sensor:

Aftermarket version, reviews well for 912  at aircraft spruce:

UL FLIGHT LINE TEMP SENDER 150C M10X1.5 T-6 T-3 (bought from skyshop Australia)

 


17mm water hose replacement:

Gates Silicone  Hose in 5/8" (16mm) x 3ft,  ON 2481 can be purchased from:

SCA Item No. SPO3377117 $97.00/3ft

Maxi Parts  Product Code GAT 26241 $50.00/M

 

Ignition modules. Better and cheaper:

https://www.ignitech.cz/en/vyrobky/bikes/rotax/rotax_912_and_914/rotax_912_and_914.htm

 

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6 hours ago, danny_galaga said:

This is the list so far, rather scatologically ordered, for my Bushcat. But there are many Rotax options listed:

 

 

 

Suppliers:

Loravia.com - Rotax engine parts, France


Individual parts:

Radiator cap is BMW P/N 17112345074 at about 1/2 of the Rotax price (fitted to BMW motorcycle F650 with Rotax engine)."

 

Radiator hose, section 106:

Note: gates 03-0010 and 01-0007 are 25mm ID and will replace the rear two bends and the right hand side short straight piece near the starter. 25mm is a much better fit.

2 X 02-0951 (Datsun 120y lower radiator). Leftover 70 something degree bend from above 01-0007 goes on right hand radiator tank outlet.

 

Oil coolers:

Manufactured by setrab

Part no. 50-110-7612 (Setrab Oil Cooler 210mm 10 row M22 female. Setrab part number 50-110-7612.) X 2. One has the brackets cut off.


Radiator:

Manufactured by setrab

Part no. 50-925-7612

 

Fuel line:

Gates barricade carburettor 


Regulator/rectifier:

CARR5115 from vectriqparts.com.au


Exhaust nuts:

OEM - Bert Flood .  the part number is 842950 - Lock Nut M8-SW12


Starter relay:

Denso part 182800-1950

Same relay is used on Rotax Max Evo go kart engines. Much easier to find searching for that .

Nippon Denso. Can get from Ecclestone aviation UK

 

Starter motor (not 100% sure about this one). Aftermarket..suits BMW f650

https://www.stein-dinse.com/en/item-1-1524043.html#prettyPhoto

 

Fuel pump:

Pierburg 7.02242.32.0 - Fuel Pump

https://spareto.com/products/pierburg-fuel-pump/7-02242-32-0

Not branded as Rotax, but from the same manufacturer. 

 

Spark plugs:

DCPR7E NGK

Dcpr8e currently on my engine 

as far as I know, there is no 'aircraft' version of this so just get them from Repco.

 

90 degree carby tube for choke:

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005004164377398.html?spm=a2g0n.order_detail.order_detail_item.3.604cf19cHB72xq

ZS Racing 90-degree Throttle Cable Adjuster For PHBG Keihin PWK PJ PWM PE Mikuni TM VM Carburetor Spare Parts

 

Water/oil temp sensor:

Aftermarket version, reviews well for 912  at aircraft spruce:

UL FLIGHT LINE TEMP SENDER 150C M10X1.5 T-6 T-3 (bought from skyshop Australia)

 


17mm water hose replacement:

Gates Silicone  Hose in 5/8" (16mm) x 3ft,  ON 2481 can be purchased from:

SCA Item No. SPO3377117 $97.00/3ft

Maxi Parts  Product Code GAT 26241 $50.00/M

 

Ignition modules. Better and cheaper:

https://www.ignitech.cz/en/vyrobky/bikes/rotax/rotax_912_and_914/rotax_912_and_914.htm

 

A very helpful list although all Rotax installations are not the same.

The difference in your spark plug numbers is the heat range. The DCPR7E runs hotter than the DCPR8E so not a suitable alternative for everyone.

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8 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

Hi Danny G,

 

I always thought your initiating this topic was/is a stroke of geniuses. However it needs to be summarised into a logical, easily searched, list, free from the tangential debate that has accompaniment some of the entries.

 

The big question is - how to go about making the list???

 

A start would be dividing the list into common aircraft, engines (some entries would likly be under two or more headings)

 

What think you?

 

PS - Cost effective, temperature strips may be a valuable item in managing your engines heat impact on vulnerable/expensive components.

 

😈

 

 

A simple editable Excel file might do the trick. Anybody could add a column or extra line for various engines or aircraft. 

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6 hours ago, Moneybox said:

A simple editable Excel file might do the trick. Anybody could add a column or extra line for various engines or aircraft. 

Dunno. You can't edit anything here after 15 minutes, so that could be tricky 

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7 hours ago, Moneybox said:

A very helpful list although all Rotax installations are not the same.

True ! - Thats why there is now a long list of possible Radiator (25mm ID) & Coolant (17 mm ID) hoses to choose from.

 

The difference in your spark plug numbers is the heat range. The DCPR7E runs hotter than the DCPR8E so not a suitable alternative for everyone.

Before the current Rotax multi electrode plugs,  NGK DCPR8E were the recommended plugs for a 912ULS. The new plug is branded Rotax to avoid any issues of product liability - not because they are better performing.

Reference: Rotax Owner (one of many articles on the topic) https://www.rotax-owner.com/en/912-914-technical-questions/9804-912uls-ngk-dcpr8e-spark-plugs-tools?start=0

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17 hours ago, danny_galaga said:

This is the list so far, rather scatologically ordered, for my Bushcat. But there are many Rotax options listed:

 

 

 

Suppliers:

Loravia.com - Rotax engine parts, France


Individual parts:

Radiator cap is BMW P/N 17112345074 at about 1/2 of the Rotax price (fitted to BMW motorcycle F650 with Rotax engine)."

 

Radiator hose, section 106:

Note: gates 03-0010 and 01-0007 are 25mm ID and will replace the rear two bends and the right hand side short straight piece near the starter. 25mm is a much better fit.

2 X 02-0951 (Datsun 120y lower radiator). Leftover 70 something degree bend from above 01-0007 goes on right hand radiator tank outlet.

 

Oil coolers:

Manufactured by setrab

Part no. 50-110-7612 (Setrab Oil Cooler 210mm 10 row M22 female. Setrab part number 50-110-7612.) X 2. One has the brackets cut off.


Radiator:

Manufactured by setrab

Part no. 50-925-7612

 

Fuel line:

Gates barricade carburettor 


Regulator/rectifier:

CARR5115 from vectriqparts.com.au


Exhaust nuts:

OEM - Bert Flood .  the part number is 842950 - Lock Nut M8-SW12


Starter relay:

Denso part 182800-1950

Same relay is used on Rotax Max Evo go kart engines. Much easier to find searching for that .

Nippon Denso. Can get from Ecclestone aviation UK

 

Starter motor (not 100% sure about this one). Aftermarket..suits BMW f650

https://www.stein-dinse.com/en/item-1-1524043.html#prettyPhoto

 

Fuel pump:

Pierburg 7.02242.32.0 - Fuel Pump

https://spareto.com/products/pierburg-fuel-pump/7-02242-32-0

Not branded as Rotax, but from the same manufacturer. 

 

Spark plugs:

DCPR7E NGK

Dcpr8e currently on my engine 

as far as I know, there is no 'aircraft' version of this so just get them from Repco.

 

90 degree carby tube for choke:

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005004164377398.html?spm=a2g0n.order_detail.order_detail_item.3.604cf19cHB72xq

ZS Racing 90-degree Throttle Cable Adjuster For PHBG Keihin PWK PJ PWM PE Mikuni TM VM Carburetor Spare Parts

 

Water/oil temp sensor:

Aftermarket version, reviews well for 912  at aircraft spruce:

UL FLIGHT LINE TEMP SENDER 150C M10X1.5 T-6 T-3 (bought from skyshop Australia)

 


17mm water hose replacement:

Gates Silicone  Hose in 5/8" (16mm) x 3ft,  ON 2481 can be purchased from:

SCA Item No. SPO3377117 $97.00/3ft

Maxi Parts  Product Code GAT 26241 $50.00/M

 

Ignition modules. Better and cheaper:

https://www.ignitech.cz/en/vyrobky/bikes/rotax/rotax_912_and_914/rotax_912_and_914.htm

 

A good spot may be in 'Resources' title Rotax 912 parts suppliers by Danny.  Just a thought.

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