old man emu

Would it help to shove this up the Council's nose?

[/url]https://vhd.heritagecouncil.vic.gov.au/places/12650

The Butler Hangar is of significance to the State of Victoria for its rarity and uniqueness, and its historical, architectural and scientific (technical) significance. The Butler Hangar is historically significant as a place in which Australia's most advanced military plane, the CA 15, was developed. The hangar is of architectural and scientific (technical) importance as an intact example of a prefabricated and transportable hangar. It was designed in such a way as to permit dismantling and re-erection and for this reason, its removal to another aerodrome or site of aeronautical association, can be entertained.

And these two documents:

https://www.mornpen.vic.gov.au/files/assets/public/new-website-documents/building-amp-planning/heritage/docs/strategic_heritage_mornington_study_pt1.pdf

https://www.mornpen.vic.gov.au/files/assets/public/new-website-documents/building-amp-planning/heritage/docs/strategic_heritage_mornington_study_pt2.pdf

I think the aircraft in the video that Thruster is talking about is "That's All ... Brother". This was the C-47 (DC-3 to us) that lead the armada of airborne troops across the Channel.

[/url]https://thatsallbrother.org/

It is fair comment to say that the aircraft in the pictures above are not true to detail. The pictured aircraft have nice, well-delineated "invasion stripes". Back in June 1944, the order to paint on the invasions stripes was issued on the Sunday before the invasion kicked off on Tuesday morning. Ground crew had to quickly find black paint and white paint (there was no black and white stripped paint available) and slap the stripes on in about a day an a half. Don't forget that there were several thousand planes involved from observation Stinsons to B-17's and Liberators, plus all the British aircraft.

There's a story that on one airfield, they ran out of paint, so they went into the nearest town and broke into the hardware stores to get the paint. They didn't steal it. They left IOUs for all the paint they took.

Yes. The presumption is that you'll cut your costs and pay the fine. But that does not negate the fact that it was your your decision to take the economic way out, and a abandon your right to have your accuser prove the accusation. The problem is that the legal system is an exclusive club whose members fight tooth and nail to prevent people who aren't members sharing in the spoils.

I don't doubt that the policeman in onetrack's story made a fool of himself in the witness box. Police nowadays expect to be able to pull the wool over the eyes of the public, but they go to water when the heat is put on them. I'm helping a young woman who was arrested in relation to a domestic assault. The arresting police made no proper investigation at all. I'm just waiting for the hearing when the woman's mother gives evidence of what she saw and heard in the FaceTime call the young woman made to her while the young woman was being assaulted.

As for police knowing the law, when this young woman first went to court, I told the policewoman organising the running order to tell the Police Prosecutor that I wanted to go into court with the young woman as her "Mackenzie friend", the policewoman didn't have a clue what I was talking about and told me that since the woman was an adult, she couldn't have anyone go with her.

A McKenzie friend has no right to appear as an advocate, or to address the court on behalf of the unrepresented litigant, but such a person may provide assistance and advice to the unrepresented litigant in conducting the case.

Fortunately for the young woman, the Public Solicitor agreed to appear for her on that occasion in what was really a bail review and an administrative appearance.

Police aren't Judge and Jury. If you get a ticket, it's up to you to decide whether you've done wrong or not. If you reckon that you've done wrong, save time and pay the fixed penalty. If you reckon the police are wrong, stand for your principles and take the matter to court and let someone who actually knows the Law judge whose interpretation is correct. If you come back with "Oh, it'll cost me too much time and money, then your principles aren't worth much.

I'll back Turbo. What I posted was straight from the ADR.

I wish people would stop sprouting off about things they have no experience of, especially correctly interpreting and applying legislation. And I hate people who insist on painting police as automotons with a strict black and white application of legislation. If you haven't been a Copper don't expound on the process of policing.

11. Modifications and extension of approval of the vehicle type or safety-belt or restraint system type

11.1. Every modification of the vehicle type or the belt or restraint system or both shall be notified to the Type Approval Authority which approved the vehicle type or safety-belt or restraint system type. The Authority may then either:

11.1.1. Consider that the modifications made are unlikely to have an appreciable adverse effect and that in any case the vehicle or safety-belt or restraint system still complies with the requirements;

I would say that placing a cover slip on the sash of a seatbelt in a position that does not stop the correct function of the belt is OK

I hope she patents the idea before some US corporation steals another Aussie idea.

Don't forget the cost of treatment for PTSD for the crew members who not only had to suffer the psychological stresses of the actual emergency up to the time of landing, but also the stresses of the post-incident military enquiry.

Are the crew of a military aircraft court-martialled for losing their aircraft like the captain of a naval vessel is?

Does anybody know the story of why there were so many fatalities during wartime basic training in Tiger Moths? I have read, but find it hard to believe, that the Port Pirie wartime basic training operation killed 5% of recruits.

Probably due to the need to push students through the course. In wartime you don't have the luxury of a slow and steady development of recruits. There would have been many reasons like a sky full of aircraft whose pilots were at different skill levels. Weather and equipment failures would have taken their toll. Every wartime air force had high training fatality rates. Then after the pilots were "qualified" they killed themselves and crew during mission training.

It was common, too, for mid-air collisions to occur while those huge bomber formations were forming up after take off.

So the Yanks had things like this:

…or this:

…or any of a hundred and one other wacky paint jobs.

These are genuine colour schemes used by what were called ‘assembly ships’ (also sometimes known, cynically, as ‘judas goats’)

The assembly ships were worn out bombers, brightly painted with unit-specific high-visibility patterns, and equipped with signal lighting, and flares, who would take off before the rest of the formation and act as a point of reference for the rest of the bombers to formate on, forming what they called a Combat box.

Once the bomber force was in formation, the assembly ships went back to base.

If it is sitting on its landing gear; the crew is uninjured, and the aircraft has not been damaged as a result of the landing, I'd call it a "Precautionary" landing.

Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal (VCAT).

The purpose of the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal(VCAT) is to provide a low cost, accessible, efficient tribunal with a focus on dispute resolution. VCAT has three divisions: civil, administrative division, and human rights. The administrative division determines applications from people seeking review of government decisions such as local council land valuations and planning permits, state taxation, business licences and professional registrations, and worksafe assessments. All appeals of a VCAT decision can be made in the Supreme Court of Victoria but only on questions of law.

What about those of us who don't use FB? What's the guts of his post?

Looking at the satelite view of the strip makes me ask, "Was there once a railway line running alongside Lake Omeo Road?"

The impression I got when I last looked into one of these Rusky planes was that they were built stronger than a reo-mesh concrete sh|thouse. Looked more like they were built like a farm tractor than a bird of flight. I can't see structural failure being a cause, unless it was the wing nut holding the control column.

Or you could raise the matter with the local Federal member to remind them of their Party's Aviation Policy

Coalition Policy: [/url]http://lpaweb-static.s3.amazonaws.com/Coalition%202013%20Election%20Policy%20%E2%80%93%20Aviation%20%E2%80%93%20final.pdf

Labor Policy: https://anthonyalbanese.com.au/albo_wpbird/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Labors_Positive_Plan_For_Aviation.pdf

This is taken from the Wikipedia entry for the town of Tyabb:

The airfield provides access to the area for all emergency services and is an important part of the town's economy being the largest employer in the district.

A reading of the Wikipedia entry suggests that Tyabb, only 60 kms from Melbourne has become a "trendy" destination for Melbournians to sip coffee and buy antiquey stuff. Recent residential development is no doubt the reason for the Council's attack. It seems that caveat emptor is never in the minds of people who want to move to the area.

A look at the layout of Tyabb airfield suggests that it was a wartime field.

This is interesting: TYABB SKIES REMEMBER IN SILENCE – Mornington Peninsula Bandicoot

For the clueless:

This plane is registered in Qatar

If it's the same one, Bubbleboy has seen it in Tamworth, hanging from a shed roof, while he was in the early stages of building his Pietenpol.

Did Jack sell it before the mid-60's, and if so, to whom? Whose clearing sale was it at, or did Jack just put it in someone's for the sake of getting rid of it?

He seems to have been a real identity in the District.

Thank you for the information.

I've managed to get the information I need by trawling the Internet. Have a look at On This Day for 31st July

No. This one: Corben Super Ace homebulit (1938). The picture is of a scale model, but there was one built in Narromine and was on display in the museum. I'd like info on the builder and any dates related to the plane or builder.

I'm doing some research into the untold stories of Australian aviation and one of these is that of the Narromine-built biplane that I saw in the museum there.

I'd like to know the name of the constructor/pilot and details of the plane. If anyone can get me this info, I'd be most appreciative.

Old Man Emu

Consider this.

Flying schools are using Warwick as destinations for Nav-exs. The student should have obtained the weather before preparing a flight plan. Surely it would be a good idea to calculate the expected cross-wind component for the strips at the destination and plan the landing approach before flocking off from home base?