sseeker

I always thought that GA flight tests were done by an approved 'testing officer' not a CFI (although they could be the same thing). My brother flys at Jandakot and had to get a testing officer in to do his PPL test. His school does have a CFI, however he doesn't do the testing (as far as I'm aware)

-Andrew

Ergh! When I looked it up on Google (because the seller had no photos) it came up with something looking like the A-Plane http://www.ultralightflyer.com/javelin_ultralight_aircraft/images/javelin/javelin2.jpg - but after looking further into it last night I worked out it wasn't anything like it lol

-Andrew

Hold on a second, where did I say that I was going to do that? This seems to be going way off. I was simply replying to cficares scenario ;)

Also,

"Restriction of advertising of commercial operations 210. A person shall not give any public notice, by newspaper advertisement, broadcast statement or any other means of public announcement, to the effect that a person is willing to undertake by use of an Australian aircraft any commercial operations unless the last-mentioned person has obtained an Air Operator's Certificate authorising the conduct of those operations."

The only restriction on advertising seems to be on commercial operations, so in other words if I opened up "Andrews Skydive Business" and I was the pilot with a CPL and I was making profit, I'd need an AOC. However if I'm conducting private operations WITHOUT a timetable i.e passenger transport with a 50/50 cost share arrangement, I don't see anything stopping me. Obviously I wouldn't post in the newspaper, it was an offer on my facebook to my friends.

-Andrew

Airsick I'm well aware of that. "with a fixed schedule between terminals" cfi said nothing about a fixed schedule.

-Andrew

Hello All,As some of you would know i am a keen Trike, and 3 axis pilot, in the RAAus world and GA.

I think it is time for me to start a new chapter, Yep you guessed it GYRO's.

 

I have located a couple of old school gyro's, the type with the seat as the fuel tank, unfortunately they were involved in a crash a few years back and the current owners are now to scared to go near them. I was thinking about buying what parts are left and having a go at rebuiling one, (out of the two gyros i should be able to get one)

 

I am not sure if many people still fly these types of machines, or if anyone is able to let me know about any known traps in picking up Crashed Gyro frames, etc.

 

They were flying with 582's on them.

 

I can get photos if anyone would be able have a look and let me know if i am just wasting my money, or think i could salvage them.

 

When and if i get one up and recertified. i will go and learn how to fly it. (maybe) haha

 

any advise is greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks

I suggest you come up to Bindoon one weekend. There's a load of gyros up there. If you're interested I can get you the phone number of a guy who does training (I think) at Bindoon. It's about 100km North of Perth CBD. There's a fixed wing school but I'm not sure about the gyro operations, although I'm sure there's a gyro school as well. The fixed wing a/c for hire are: J160C/D, Gazelle CA25N and a Skyfox CA25 but I can't say anything about the gyros as I'm not really involved with them.

Let me know.

-Andrew

Cfi what's wrong with that? If I did that I'm a private operator. ""commercial operations" means civil air operations other than private operations" And it says nothing about not being able to advertise. But even still you're taking a huge risk taking randoms flying, especially if the aeroplane was uninsured! I'm sure CASA wouldn't like it anyway.

-Andrew

Thanks, probably gonna stick with the J160 for now, also I meant CA25 for the tailwheel Gazelle

Congrats once again, you must be thrilled :big_grin: Make sure you do some fully developed spins dual though, well worth it and not that scary!

Tomo, I don't think any money can be earned as profit by the club otherwise it would be considered commercial, therefore your operation would be considered commercial. I *think*

Then we ask 'well what's a private operation'? and of course there's no definition and we're left up to our own devices.

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What I would do is put a note on fb asking if anyone wants to come for a fly, then if they say yes send them a private message that some contribution to the cost would be appreciated since hiring costs aren't cheap. Nobody can say you're advertising publicly then (I assume).

"PRIVATE OPERATIONS CAR 2(7)D

The following are regarded as private operations:

• The personal transportation of the owner of the aircraft.
   
   
  
• Aeiral spotting where no remuneration is received by the pilot or the owner of the aircraft or by any person or organisation on whose behalf the spotting is conducted.
   
   
  
• Agricultural operations on land owned by the owner of the aircraft.
   
   
  
• Aerial photography where no remuneration is received by the pilot or the owner of the aircraft or by any person or organisation on whose behalf the spotting is conducted.
   
   
  

I also don't think it's legal to take skydivers up under a PPL regardless if you make any money because it is considered "aerial work"

Also Darky, good idea on the note!

-Andrew

Thanks David, I'm really not sure what to think on this one. Most people I know just ask if you wanna split the costs! How is anyone supposed to know about cost splitting before reading the CAR if I can't tell them?

-Andrew

I've been looking into this further and there is another variation called the "Javelin" - one is for sale in this forums classifieds.

-Andrew

Congratulations! What school are you training with at Jandakot?

-Andrew

What an outstanding achievement! I know people who have got to flight screening and failed - it's tough stuff apparently. He must be ecstatic. This is the path I want to take and I've always wondered whether my prior aviation experience would help.

Good luck to him with his future in the RAAF.

-Andrew

A thought for you (my opinion only):- Facebook is not a public announcement - I can't see it, for example, can i?

-Andrew

EDIT:

Note - This GA pilot is actually a very nice person!

Well I had an interesting encounter on facebook just then, I posted a comment on my 'wall' asking if anyone wanted to come for a fly this weekend and split the cost. A GA guy (a very nice person) that I've known for quite some time posted that what I said was illegal, he did say that it may be different for RA-Aus though. He said that you can't publically announce that you can take people flying with cost sharing unless you own an air operators certificate or a flight training facility. Well turns out under regulation 210 you can't, but it quotes under CAO 95.55, "regulation 210 insofar as advertising of flying training to qualify for a pilot standard specified in the RAA Operations Manual is concerned;" - I take it this means that you're not exempt from anything in this regulation apart from the fact you can advertise flight training for your flight training facility for the issue of a Pilot Cert under the RA-Aus ops manual, yeah?

This aviation law stuff is really starting to get on my nerves

-Andrew

Congratulations! A big achievement. I like the method your CFI used for the test, I bet it kept your nerves down.

-Andrew

That looks very cool! What do you think the unit price will be? 3-4k?

-Andrew

Wet meaning fuel is included in the hire price and dry meaning fuel is not included. At least that's my understanding.

I pay $260/hr dual for a C152A, $155 dual for a J160 and $125 solo for a J160, all wet. Just to give you an idea of costing.

Thanks,

Andrew

Hey Wangaratta,

Good luck with your saving, make sure you get into the theory (BAK, Air Legislation, Radio & Cross Country) Also you should apply for the RA-Aus GYFTS scholarship to help you pay.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Thanks,

Andrew

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Brett,

If only I had the money

Hi,

Yes I looked on their website recently, I'm really after the P2002 though.

Thanks for the info though. Much appreciated :big_grin:

-Andrew

CA-21 skyfox has the aeropower engine with the prop spinning the wrong way and very easy to fly, lacks a little tail authority in the flair so could get interesting. CA-22 skyfox was the rotax powered with a slightly larger tail and extra horsepower coupled with that pidgeon-towed undercarriage is a recipe for some interesting landings and a lot of fun..they ruined a good little aeroplane when they built the gazelle..as for changing planes to do your cross countries...go for it, you have an instructor with you and it really is hardly rocket science..good luck and above all...have fun

-Andrew

Very sad to hear. Here's a video I found demonstrating the skill required and displayed by Crop Dusting pilots

-Andrew

Hi Pud,

Didn't know there was a fly in at White Gum this weekend, I might have to go look around :big_grin: There's also a fly in at Serpentine this Sunday, you going along?

-Andrew

Hi BlackRod,

I was a bit fast & was high on my approach. I took it in a bit faster because of the gusting and varying winds and I kinda cut in on final hoping the x-wind would help me but of course it was straight down the runway at that stage and then changed into a slight x-wind from the North on late final.