A nice exchange between controller and pilot

[danny_galaga]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but the guy did say he learnt something today ☺️

 

Just nice to something constructive and non dramatic regarding safety for a change 🙂

 

 

 

 

[onetrack]

The Tenerife disaster was caused by a simple lack of checking with ATC, that the B747 was actually cleared for takeoff, when they were lined up, and radio traffic was overloaded, and messages were becoming garbled and spoken over.

 

There was cockpit confusion in the B747, and the Capt was a "go-go" merchant who was itching to firewall the throttles, and he didn't wait for clear instructions for takeoff clearance. He just assumed they were cleared for takeoff. 

 

Communications clarity, and asking for takeoff verification when unsure of instructions, would have to be the primary aims in ATC-pilot communications.

[facthunter]

When not sure of any instruction just say "Confirm" Bla Bla Bla. Nev

[facthunter]

I thought the pilot was talking too fast and easily upset. All that talk shouldn't be Happening on a busy Surface Movements Control Frequency .  Nev

[danny_galaga]

2 hours ago, facthunter said:

I thought the pilot was talking too fast and easily upset. All that talk shouldn't be Happening on a busy Surface Movements Control Frequency .  Nev

If you're talking about my link, the pilot doesn't sound upset to me.

[johnm]

yes - OK - Takeoff - and read back instruction - mentioned in this one