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 Our local air museum, the Queensland Air Museum has been trying to obtain one of the classic Hornets, so on behalf of the museum, I'm begging for e-petition signatures. Hopefully the link might spread around as every signature counts. The museum has plenty of people on it's side in local, state and federal areas, but the federal government is flatly refusing requests and will scrap the remaining Hornets rather than allocate any more to museums. The problem is, there's only one chance at obtaining a Hornet and that's before they're scrapped; once they're gone, they're gone forever. None have been allocated to any Queensland museums and QAM, Australia's largest air museum, has unfortunately missed out. A Hornet would be a great addition to the museum. The RAAF fast jet line up at the museum includes an F8 Meteor, CAC Sabre, Mirage 111, a Macchi trainer and an F-111. All ex RAAF except the Meteor. It's ex UK, ex Singapore and detailed to represent the RAAF Meteor flown in Korea by WO Ron Guthrie who was the first person in the world to perform a combat ejection.

 

Link to the e-petition:

https://www.qldair.museum/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR3CrEK4TkeMUjOmTOS0dBuJB8fxe1M9G5yLK4ETuEMlGj3E1c7o24zCaLo_aem_AYVOprRVBzVWx6krUcwDtETL0q5yykUxQlrLrEpasihq_BUhBYL3Uaqq9Pz0NzgYqnQhLEsrJVG9hTlaD7vS9UEn

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On 07/06/2024 at 1:02 PM, willedoo said:

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 Our local air museum, the Queensland Air Museum has been trying to obtain one of the classic Hornets, so on behalf of the museum, I'm begging for e-petition signatures. Hopefully the link might spread around as every signature counts. The museum has plenty of people on it's side in local, state and federal areas, but the federal government is flatly refusing requests and will scrap the remaining Hornets rather than allocate any more to museums. The problem is, there's only one chance at obtaining a Hornet and that's before they're scrapped; once they're gone, they're gone forever. None have been allocated to any Queensland museums and QAM, Australia's largest air museum, has unfortunately missed out.


A Hornet would be a great addition to the museum.


The RAAF fast jet line up at the museum includes an F8 Meteor, CAC Sabre, Mirage 111, a Macchi trainer and an F-111. All ex RAAF except the Meteor. It's ex UK, ex Singapore and detailed to represent the RAAF Meteor flown in Korea by WO Ron Guthrie who was the first person in the world to perform a combat ejection.

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That’s a real shame if they all end up getting scrapped. The classic Hornets are such an important part of RAAF history, and once they’re gone there’s no getting them back. Considering the lineup the Queensland Air Museum already has, a Hornet would fit perfectly and complete that fast jet story from early jets through to modern era. It’s hard to understand why at least one couldn’t be allocated, especially to a major museum with proper preservation capability. Static displays like that do a lot for public interest and education. Hopefully enough support builds to change someone’s mind before it’s too late.

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The video below outlines the total fiasco involving the remaining intact Australian Hornets. A lot of people probably don't know they're currently stored on Tinian, which is a location guaranteed to make the Hornets less attractive to buyers as every day goes by, thanks to the tropical climate.

 

It seems obvious the Australian Govt is intent on extracting as much value from the remaining airframes as possible - given the fact that they ARE worth a lot of money to numerous interested parties.

But the complications arise when you understand that U.S. Govt export controls are all-encompassing, highly restrictive, and the U.S. has the final say in what happens to "their" high-tech defence products.

 

These export controls extend to every item of defence equipment ever built - and to the most distant end-user, even after multiple sales through multiple owners. I've purchased ground equipment from U.S. bases, which has minimal defence use (just general purpose equipment such as diesel engines and forklifts) - and the end-user agreement runs to multiple pages and essentially threatens you with U.S. jail time if you on-sell the equipment without their oversight and approval.

 

Add in to the equation, the dithering in Australian Defence and Govt circles as regards decision-making, the slowness of same, the dubious financial capabilities of many of the "interested buyers" (apart from other Govts), the impact of the U.S. input into the sale, involving the end-user agreement - and you can see why the Hornets are still languishing on Tinian, with no buyer in sight.

I fail to understand why they ended up on Tinian after the buyer was unable to meet their commitment. Someone needs to be hauled over the coals over this dodgy sale arrangement. 

 

 

 

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I think they are Made from a Pretty fancy Material that USA wants to Keep under wraps.  Nev

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