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There's a fair amount of BS in the video (he could've easily reduced the video to half its length) - but the greatest amount of BS is around why the cars were destroyed, what they actually ran on, and what their major sales problems were.

1. The cars were not destroyed because of tariffs. The tariff at the time was a trifling amount for Chrysler. The reason they were destroyed is because Chrysler didn't want them in public hands, and thereby costing them a heap of money to support.

2. They wouldn't "run on anything". They needed kerosene or diesel. Petrol fuels left highly undesirable deposits in the turbine. Kerosene wasn't readily available in bowsers, and diesel produced higher smoke levels.

3. They suffered from serious throttle lag. When you needed response when you planted your right foot, the turbines couldn't do it. They took time to spool up. A few seconds is a lifetime when you want instant power with a truck bearing down on you.

4. Their fuel consumption was abysmal, to say the least - and their maintenance levels were horrendous. They were high-tech engines requiring very close tolerances, and they weren't good at running well when worn - unlike a Chrysler V8.

The article below covers most of the reasons why the Chrysler Turbine cars were destroyed. It does seem a shame that more weren't kept in existence, but there have been plenty of very expensive vehicles sent to the scrappers.

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/11/the-truth-about-why-chrysler-destroyed-the-turbine-cars/

There's more interesting information in the links below.

https://turbinecar.com/

It's amazing how many of the turbine cars on loan to the public were damaged - by carelessness, in most cases. 

https://turbinecar.com/KarlPippart-2013.htm

.....like his famous NES descendant, was quite impartial to sandwiches, after having had to dine on nothing but bully beef (interspersed with the occasional lime) for months and months on end, on his long dreary voyages. In fact, his most favourite sandwich memory was cucumber sandwiches with Queen Charlotte (as King George III was busy with some rebellious Americans).

Today, Capt Cooks descendant, the Jedi mouse of NES fame, is well known for his love of sandwiches, which he inherited from his Great Great Great Great Great Grandfather. 

What makes any sandwich more appealing to the Jedi mouse, is if it's a free sandwich, and he didn't have to make it himself. He's been known to appear instantly as soon as a sandwich wrapper is rustled. And if the sandwich contains premium ham and gourmet cheese, he's been known to elbow little old ladies aside, and climb over...........

And once again, Dear NES readers, we have total failure on the part of the Jedi Rat to offer continuation of the NES, as he has failed (in exactly the same manner as he berated Turbo previously), to leave the story hanging with the required ellipsis!  (look that big word up, Mr Rat!).

So OT will have to continue on from the previous post of the Jedi mouse, where he actually did leave an ellipsis ....

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"rubbed it on their ....."

.... costumes as they were about to go on stage. This led to great consternation, and a serious delay in staging the spectactular show, as planned. 

"Don't worry about it", said Turbo, "This is only a mild side effect of the product, and has little impact on the overall performance, which...........

A pushrod can also be simply bent via overspeeding an engine beyond its specified maximum RPM.

I never cease to be amazed at the lack of professionalism and the lack of product knowledge by many people in the sales areas of industry. A broker is providing a service, and that service involves knowing what they are selling and providing the information that the buyer seeks. A good broker or agent also finds out the buyers budget, the planned use of the item, and whether the item they're selling will "fill the bill" for the buyers requirements.

I do a small amount of buying of equipment for people who have heard of my equipment knowledge and purchasing skills, via word of mouth. I'm not a broker, nor do I do this as a profession - but I like to keep my acquired skills tuned up.

I have self-drawn-up evaluation charts for each type of equipment, with every major item of componentry listed, that relates to that item of equipment - along with my assessment of its condition, its performance in operation, and any potential repairs needed.

The charts are based on military charts that were designed for maintenance purposes - but I have substantially modified them for sales inspection purposes. Many machinery dealers would utilise a similar type of evaluation chart for assessing trade-ins, in the 1960's and 1970's.

I take about 35 to 40 photos of the item of equipment, and provide a written report to the buyer, giving an accurate assessment of the item. Most of these items of equipment are coming up for sale in auctions, some are privately or dealer owned.

Regardless, the approach is the same - assess the item of equipment in a logical written and recorded manner, and provide all the information and clear photos, that the potential buyer needs to make an informed decision.

I have never yet had an unhappy potential buyer, because they are impressed at what I provide - a professional report that makes it easy for them to make a decision based on their needs and requirements.

A professional broker should be able to provide a similar report - and if they can't, they're not professional, they're merely sales BS-artists, just intent on keeping up a flow of income, with little concern for making sure both seller and buyer are satisfied.

I have seen nothing that would convince me that alien beings exist. The drawing abilities of some people are very good, and along with some Hollywood movies, they have convinced a large percentage of the population that aliens exist, and they all look like the beings in 440032's photo above. I seriously doubt there is any life in the universe that even faintly resembles the shape or form of homo sapiens.

But there is definitely a large number of mysterious flying objects and lights, that have been witnessed by many intelligent and well-grounded people, many with professional skills and knowledge, that cannot be explained in terms of regular aircraft, light refraction, Aurora, meteorites, satellites, Chinese lanterns, or humans playing with exotic airborne devices.

Another UFO sighting locally was experienced by one of my employees and his friend. I'll call them Fred and Ted for convenience, and so as not to expose them to ridicule by identification. They were both around 18 years old at the time, and good, grounded country boys, with practical experience and knowledge in many areas.

It was around 1980, and Fred and Ted were out "spotlighting" (looking for vermin) in a farm paddock, only about 3-4 kms from where I, the brother and his wife, sighted the brilliant fluoro green light rising up into the sky.

They were driving an early 70's petrol-powered farm Hilux, and were carrying .22 rifles and popping off foxes and rabbits. It was around 8:30PM and late Autumn, and quite dark.

They drove into this paddock that contained a gravel pit where gravel had been excavated for road use. The paddock was situated on a hill, and the gravel pit was near the top of the hill in the paddock.

As they were driving down the gradual slope on the far side of the hill, the Hilux suddenly stopped, and all the lights went out. The Hilux was in reasonable condition, but it was a farm ute, with the normal lack of maintenance.

They immediately presumed a battery lead had come off. They opened the bonnet, checked all the leads and wiring, and couldn't find anything wrong. But the Hilux was totally dead, electrically.

They decided it was in need of intense technical investigation, so they decided to leave it and walk down to a neighbours house about 1.5kms away, to get assistance.

They set off on foot, and had only got about 500M, when suddenly, all the lights in the Hilux came back on - including the interior light, which had not been on when they left the vehicle.

Puzzled, they commenced to walk back to the Hilux. They had only retraced their steps about 100M, when according to both of them, they heard a loud humming sound coming from the region of the gravel pit.

As they continued walking towards the Hilux, a "huge UFO, coloured with a bright orange glow, that lit up the whole area around them", rose straight up out of the gravel pit and made directly for them, flying straight over the top of them, only a few metres over their heads, before zooming off into the sky, and disappearing without trace in a few seconds.

At this point, as you can well imagine, they were thoroughly "spooked". They took to their heels and ran to the neighbours place, and raised them as they were about to go to bed - and the neighbours told us later, they were nearly incoherent with fear. They knew the boys well, and had never seen them like this before.

The neighbours and the boys returned to the Hilux, which was still sitting with all the lights on (but not the interior light) - and upon getting into the Hilux, it started again instantly, and showed no signs of any electrical fault/s.

When the boys told us their story the next day, there was little doubt that their experience was real and unexplainable, as regards any known circumstances or causes - and the performance of the Hilux was puzzling as well, because it was normally very reliable. Nothing could be faulted when the Hilux was inspected, and it never stopped again in that manner.

As an early 70's Hilux it was a very basic model with no electronics whatsoever. There may have been a battery fault, but the battery didn't fail in any other manner until a long time afterwards.

But the loud humming noise, the bright orange light, and the sighting of the mysterious flying "vehicle" by two lads not prone to fanciful imagination, is not something that can ever be easily explained.

If the UFO's are military, why did that one approach the farm manager and hover right alongside him? Doesn't sound like something someone operating a secret military flying device would want to do, if they want it to stay secret.

And then there are the mysterious lights that are unfathomable. I've actually sighted one myself in the late 1970's, with my brother and SIL as witnesses in another vehicle, 500M behind me, on the same country dirt road.

It was about 9:00PM when we were traveling back to the small country town in the W.A. wheatbelt where we lived. We had been visiting the brothers in-laws, and had had dinner with them.

I was extremely familiar with the section of countryside and the road, as I worked around the area constantly as an agricultural contractor. 

I was travelling East, down a gradual slope into a fairly flat valley in my ute, sitting on about 100kmh. The flat valley floor had a small creek line running through it, and the road crossed the small creek at approximately 90°. 

To my left at about 15° was a small un-named Nature Reserve consisting of a variety of trees, including quite a few of the biggest Salmon gums around.

There was another rural road coming up, running off to my left on the Eastern side of the Reserve, and it basically followed the creek line.

As I approached the Nature Reserve (I was about 600-800M away from it), a massive brilliant fluoro-green light appeared in the middle of the trees. When I say massive, it was the size of a large house.

And the colour was exceptional. Think of the most garish green fluoro neon advertising sign you've ever seen, and that was the colour. Plus, it was bright! Bright enough to be seen from many kms away.

As I looked at it, startled, it rose up out of the trees - at an astonishing speed. It moved at a speed that was impossible to comprehend. It was like a moon rocket launch on steriods.

As I watched, it went straight up, and vanished into a pinpoint in the sky, within about 5-6 seconds. I was stunned, I had never seen anything like it in the W.A. rural and remote areas in all my life - and I've never seen anything like it since.

And I've spent a vast amount of time in some very remote and lonely locations, and worked all hours of the night, and seen everything the sky can deliver, from meteorites to comets to lightning, to the Aurora Australis.

I've seen the Aurora Australis from West of York, W.A., late at night about 1983, and I was surprised when I saw it - but I knew what it was, as I'd seen the Aurora as a child, just North of Perth, in the mid-1950's.

This green fluoro light was not the Aurora, and the brightness was nothing like an Aurora. Neither did it move like an Aurora. The brother and SIL saw the same light and confirmed that with me.

We discussed it for a minute, and shrugged it off - what else can you do? It doesn't fit any thing you know, your mind struggles to grasp what you've seen, because it defies all the laws of physics.

No-one else reported what we'd seen (not that I know of) - but that doesn't surprise me. The W.A. wheatbelt at night is not a heavily-populated area, and most farming families would have been retiring for the night.

The Nature Reserve is still there, and all the roads are still the same as they were in the late 1970's. Nothing much changes in years out there. The Nature Reserve is located at the following latitude and longitude.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/32°40'46.7"S+118°00'05.6"E/@-32.6796455,117.9993653

I have little doubt UFO's exist and many have been sighted by reputable people, including numerous friends and even a number of my employees. Trying to prove they come from "outer space" is impossible, so Dicks money is pretty safe.

They engender terror in many people, thus the often garbled reports which are the result of the state of terror the viewers are in. But where the viewers have kept their cool and have provided valid reports, there is a definite theme to UFO's.

Disappearing at great speed is one of them. Being seen only at night or at dusk is common. But a number have been seen in broad daylight, and clearly.

I know an associate who sighted a sizeable one sitting in a paddock in broad daylight, around 4:00PM. This bloke doesn't drink, and is unfazed by anything.

He parked his ute and walked towards the UFO to examine it, and it promptly took off, straight up, at a great rate of knots, leaving him quite amazed. It was bright, clear sunny day.

A similar event happened to this farm manager in 1967, and the UFO actually approached his Landrover and landed so close, he was struggling to open the Landrover door properly. But when he spoke, his voice echoed back at him.

When he did attempt to get out of the Landrover, the UFO sped off at a startling rate. The farm manager was obviously a person similar to my associate, a no-nonsense, practical person who wasn't easily fazed.

However, his UFO experience did obviously leave him rattled. Like my associate, the farm manager rarely spoke of the sighting again, they both obviously believed they had sighted something that cannot be explained within our practical, worldly experiences.

https://ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com/2012/09/cold-case-investigation-yerecoin-wa-15.html

As regards VW's, it wasn't the rear wheels pivoting around the gearbox that made them roll. It was the major weight imbalance to the rear that made them go from understeer to oversteer in milliseconds, when you pushed them on cornering, or did a quick swerve to avoid something.

Modern dual cab utes with a tray that extends the majority of the tray length behind the rear axle, are another vehicle with similarly dangerous handling to VW's, when loaded.

And the worst of the lot is the V8 diesel Landcruiser 70 series, traytop or troop carrier, with the narrow rear axle track. These things are deadly with weight in the rear. 

Had a mate travelling with 4 other blokes in a 70 series V8 Troop carrier with the narrow rear axle. They were loaded up with camping gear and a roof rack. They were on a good dirt road, sitting on 100kmh, when it started to rain.

The dirt road had a fair bit of clay in the road base, that turned a bit greasy in sections. They came across a greasy section, and within 20 seconds, the Troop carrier did a bit of a slide, the driver corrected, and it was on its roof instantly, with the driver still trying to figure out what had happened.

Fortunately, all were unhurt, so they climbed out, surveyed the damage (largely panel damage), righted the Troopie with a bit of effort, determined it was still driveable, and off they went again.

They only got 10 kms up the road (driving a lot more slowly) - and they came across an identical Troopie on its roof, as well! 

....he was part of the Flying Leathernecks and one day when on patrol, ran into a pack of 15 Zeros intent on Kamikaze missions, and shot 14 of them down. The 15th one fled when he saw Howard Turbines Hellcat nose insignia of a bumblebee armed with 20mm cannons under each wing.

Howard returned to the Midway with holes shot through most control surfaces, as well as the wings and fuselage - but he landed on the deck of the Midway, just like it was a normal landing.

Once on the heaving deck, he was surrounded by admiring deck crew, who had already heard of his exploits, and they were all over him, slapping him on the back and shaking his hand.

But Howard brushed off the adulation, he was unfazed by fame and glory, he only wanted to see Zeros falling out of the sky, until there were no more Zeros left.

This is the breed that Turbo comes from - steely-eyed, steely-nerved, a chiselled jawline like a movie star - but there was just one area where Howard was lacking, in the looks dept - and that was his ears.

Howards protruding ears had been responsible for him getting into scraps every day at school, as he was teased about them endlessly. Hardly a day went by at school without some kid calling out, "Hey, Donkey ears!! Hee-Haww! Hee-Hawww!"

It's unfortunate that Turbo inherited his ears as well, and this is the sole feature that identifies any of the Turbine family straight up - and Turbo has been embarrassed so often, about his Prince of Wales ears, he even sought out.....

The Gimli Glider. It was an Air Canada 767 and he was flying from Montreal to Edmonton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

....new signage, he was frightened that a council ranger would pin him with a $200 infringement for the Mayor kicking. He decided it was time to leave town.

He climbed into the Drifter (avref), did his pre-flight checks (more avref) - then discovered that someone had stolen the engine - despite the sign, warning offenders that interfering with aircraft (even more avref) was punishable by a 20 yr jail term.

Now he was in a fix, thanks to those Riverland thieves. He couldn't leave town until he found another power unit. He hoofed it into town and went looking through the light industrial area for some business that might be able to help him out.

Finally, he spotted a lawncare centre, that sold a huge range of whipper snippers, chainsaws, ride-on garden tractors, and small stationary engines. His eyes lit up when he spotted ......

.......Turbo saw an immediate opening right there, and started up Turbine Signmakers Inc, producing a wide range of safety and warning signs that people could purchase and drive in the ground anywhere.

As a result, not only did Crocodile Warning signs suddenly appear in numbers along the Murray, there were also warning signs about the man-eating Murray Cod, and warnings signs about the vicious Murray River Drop Bears, that hid way up in the Eucalyptus camaldulensis along the banks of the River.

There were warning signs about the monstrous Murray River mosquitoes, that were known to carry their victims away and drain their blood, a la Dracula.

In fact, signs even appeared, warning about the dangers associated with camping under Eucalyptus camaldulensis, as these trees were considered even more dangerous than Drop Bears.

But when signs started appearing, warning about the Murray Ness Monster, the tourists started leaving in droves, and it was then left to......

(Dear NES readers - unbelievably, one of Turbine Signmakers Inc safety signs has recently been discovered on a vacant allotment in Moorabbin. Here is the photographic evidence)

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The Subaru EA81 was originally designed & developed as an Aircraft Engine and then later modified for Automotive use when Subaru pulled out of the aviation business.

I'll call bullshit on that - can't find a thing on it. I'm happy to stand corrected.

440032 - You don't have to stand corrected, it is BS. And I don't know where it came from, but this story is repeated regularly, without any verification.

I think perhaps the story originated because the Nakajima Aircraft Co was the predecessor of Fuji Heavy Industries - and Fuji did build the Fuji FA-200 Aero Subaru trainer light aircraft from 1968 to 1986.

But the FA-200 was powered with a Lycoming, Fuji has never built a horizontally-opposed aircraft engine. However, they used their "aviation experience and background" in the design of their automotive flat fours.

But these Subaru flat four engines were designed specifically for their cars, and nothing else. The EA series traces its introduction back to 1966, when the EA52 appeared. The 1800cc EA81 appeared in 1980 in the Subaru Leone.

Fuji are still in the aviation/aerospace manufacturing industry in a big way - in the shape of Subaru Aerospace - but they build military aviation products and aviation components, for the Japanese military, and for the likes of Boeing, Bell Textron, and other aerospace manufacturers.

Fuji Heavy Industries actually changed their company group name to Subaru Corporation in 2017, a change I've only just discovered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Subaru_engines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Corporation#Divisions

https://www.subaru.co.jp/en/outline/business_aero.html

Intermittent problems are usually electrical in origin, consistent problems are usually mechanical in origin.

You just have to wonder at the number of Foxcons for sale with extremely low hours. I mean to say, "built in 2003, only 12 hrs TT"?

In addition, every single page on their website, and all their aircraft information is undated - a sure sign of a lack of attention to important detail.

The Subaru engine is a poor choice, they are heavy and unreliable. They're bad enough in the cars, but as an aviation powerplant, they're just not up to it.

They're notorious for head gasket leaks and rocker cover gasket leaks, excessive oil consumption issues, faulty valves (a manufacturing fault) and deficient valve springs.

One of the problems with Subaru, is that Fuji Heavy Industries, the parent company of Subaru is not anywhere near big enough to be able to have enough of their own factories to produce the number of vehicles they manage to sell.

So FHI subcontract a lot of component manufacturing out to Nissan and Toyota. The Toyota components are O.K., but the Nissan components are not up to Toyota quality, and as a result, the poor Nissan QC appears as Subaru faults.

Toyota have been increasing their ownership stake in FHI and now own 20% of FHI. But at this point, Nissan still supply some components for Subaru. The problems with Nissan products extend on two fronts.

1. There is a lot of internal discord within Nissan management due to a number of serious management and ownership changes over the decades. Toyota have a "familial" line of management, with less discord.

2. Nissan utilise over 100 sub-contractors to supply components on a JIT basis. These sub-contractors belong to a co-operative association, known as "Takara-kai" under Nissan.

The reason for Takara-kai is reportedly for better QC training of sub-contracting companies, and more integrated decision-making. But Takara-kai is not the same as actually owning the factory and controlling the entire production process.

So the result is, with Nissans management discord, and a less-than-satisfactory level of control over sub-contractors output and QC, Nissan products fall short of acceptable quality, more often than Toyota products do.

The Foxcon appears to offer exceptional performance and abilities with a highly competitive product. But the company itself obviously has a lot of financial and management problems (not unusual in aviation), and one must be very aware of this background, and a potential loss of manufacturer support, or even the complete disappearance of the company, if one becomes involved with the brand.

http://www.foxcon.com/Aircraft-For-Sale.html

.....he was concerned about his good public image becoming tarnished if the story and photo of the brawl got out to the general public (who were not allowed into the exclusive after-race booze-ups with skimpily-clad-girls) - and he steered clear of Red Bull because he didn't want RB asking him to repay the $3M bull had borrowed off him, to finance the rejuvenation of his 'Dong-Juice business.

The other thing that made bull hurry away (despite his awful limp), was that he was a little concerned about a rumoured ASIC investigation into his corporate operations - relating specifically to the origins and probity of his financing arrangements.

This had come about thanks to another ASIC investigation into the shadowy and obscure Turbine range of companies - and ASIC had found bulls juice company name, during the searches of the various Turbine corporation offices (which were widely scattered, and often in offices in seedy back lanes, in run-down cities).

ASIC had gone public on the Turbine conglomerate investigations, and the last thing bull needed was a...........

.....2021 Punchup at the TR stand, after the races were done for the day. It all started when a smart-mouthed young F1 driver commented on bulls Quon-Dong juice that he was drinking - intimating that anyone who drank juice at the after-racing drinking session was some kind of Tasmangeian wuss - and bull overheard the comment.

He turned around and said a few pointed words about F1 "learner-drivers", and the response was a flying right hook, that connected with bulls........

Bruce, it's all in the fine print of the contract. The tyres and wheels were auctioned publically on their site, I followed the auction.

I just suspect now that the auctioneering house bought some of them. I'm not really upset about the pricing, or the final return to me, I knew what the outcome would likely be.

The wheels and tyres didn't owe me anything by way of major financial outlay, I deal in equipment and parts regularly, and this lot was just remnants of previous purchases.

The auctioneering houses T's & C's seem to me to be a repository of some of the most ruthless lawyers and legalese, though.

It just pays to remember that the auctioneering houses have dealer licences, and they like to try and set prices by not accepting final bids, and by trying every method they can to raise final sale prices. Selling good items cheap sets the market value for that product, and reduces the return to the auctioneering business.

Don't forget the auctioneer reserves the right to bid on items themselves. I recently (a month ago) disposed of about 8 large industrial tyres and wheels at auction, via a well-known auction house.

According to them, all the tyres and wheels were sold, and I was advised the sales results, and paid out accordingly (after they took their 20% cut).

Some of the tyres and wheels disappointingly brought very little money, even though they were new and unused.

However, I was rather surprised to go to the auctioneering yard just the day before yesterday, and noted that 3 of the wheels and tyres I sold, were still sitting in their yard.

It appears to me the company purchased them for a low price, and will auction them again. I find it hard to believe an outside purchaser bought them, and hasn't picked them up yet.

Normally, if you don't pick up your purchased goods within a week, they are forfeited by the auctioneering house.

I've often thought about what a great spot the top of Mt Conner would make as an ALA. I suspect some chopper operators might have already landed there, but I don't know what the terrain is like on the top.

From ground level the top of Mt Conner appears very flat, but aerial photos show it isn't nearly as flat as it appears.

https://pbase.com/bmcmorrow/image/170811210&exif=N

.....did so and was immediately rewarded by the initiation of a completely new train of thought (because scratching them, always assists in improving thought patterns).

That train of thought involved the huge insurance payout he was going to receive, and how he could utilise that payout to both improve his flagging juice business - as well as get him into a classier level of aircraft (long-overdue avref).

There was a link needed between the two to add synergy (I just made up that word - OT) to his juicing operations, and his flying operations. A new marketing manager and a new marketing scheme would entwine his juice business with the sheer pleasure of flying (avref), and it would surely pay off in spades, if done right. After all, it's worked for Red Bull, why wouldn't it work for him?

Accordingly, bull approached Cappy, as the fount of all management, marketing, and general BS-ing knowledge, and said to him, "Cappy, do you reckon you could.........

I visited Ayers Rock in July 1969 with a mate (by road). The place was still the "Wild West", facilities were non-existent, Aboriginals were hardly seen, and the roads were little more than goat tracks.

I can't even recall seeing an airstrip or aircraft, but I guess the airstrip was there, then. We climbed the Rock and we were completely alone, all the way up, and all the way down.

There was a "visitors book" at the top with a few hundred entries in it. We left our entries - but I have no idea what might have happened to that book! It probably got vandalised and thrown out.

No aircraft flew in, or around the Rock, while we were there (a couple of days). We camped where we liked, there was no delineated camping areas, back then. We only saw about 4 or 5 other vehicles. That was the "good ol' days"!

....and Moorabbistan and Kapookastan, where clocks are actually banned, because they could have been introduced by proselytising Christians, and therefore are to be blown up on sight - a job which often falls to .....

Yeah, my Canon ended up being stolen, too. Darned annoyed about it, and what was worse, it was worth only a trifling amount when it was stolen, as digital was starting to take over.