Litespeed

Nah,

I am sure he would land, but I doubt you would get to fly again.

I have just watched the ACA interview.

Whilst it did a fair job and was not used to attack light aircraft, truth obviously is a victim.

They continually talk of a broken back- wrong he had a cracked vertebra. A huge difference, a broken back means he would have died in the plane, not had a chance to get out and would not be able to swim at all.

Even the rescue doctor which came to visit(obviously for Tv purposes) even said a broken back. SHAME SHAME SHAME.

I work with the disabled and they would fume at such a claim.

Pity truth always falls victim to a good story.

As a side note the channel nine site has some calling him a HERO- no blame to him, but Hero he is not. Nothing heroic about trying to save your own skin.

Just my 2 cents.

Phil

Sick and tired of bull in media

I have just seen some of the freeze frames of the crash.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/glanceview/190057/air-show-crash-inflicts-mass-injuries.glance

One of the pics shows the side on view of the plane- No pilot is visible. Is it possible he succumbed to G forces well before the incident?

The impact pick is shocking.

Fly-

I am saddened by this carnage and hope that all who witnessed it are able to absorb what has happened. It is so far outside the normal human experience that shock and disbelief are quite normal. Many emotions will surface in coming days, weeks and months-this is the only way humans have of dealing with such events.

The emotional scars that follow are unique to the individual but can be substantial. You must do what feels right for you and not what others say. By all means if you can talk it over with fellow survivors/witnesses.

Never feel ashamed that you survived and others did not- this is a natural reaction, but you had no say in what happened.

It is a terrible experience you have had and should never blame yourself if you have difficulty in the future with it.

I only hope that the physical and emotional recovery is full for all those involved.

Just remember- Real Men do Cry. If you need to cry, punch a wall, kick a can or whatever- just do what you need to.

No man is a island and I am sure the community on this forum will help you, just ask.

Phil

sad for all involved.

I hope the injured recover.

I also hope the races continue in the future- some have already said it is the death of Reno.

Time will tell.

And it adds a new dimension to a "computer crashing"

There is a old joke about why pilots would not use windows in a aircraft, been around since the early 90's- still holds true.

As a side issue- what happens in a fully computer controlled plane if some one gives you a virus?

Or decides they want to take control mid flight for safety or malicious reasons?

Or its inbuilt safeguards on flight performance ban you from doing whats needed to stay alive?

Think about all those Toyota recalls and unintended acceleration - would you trust such a system?

Even such a simple things as a car GPS is completely wacko sometimes and takes you the opposite direction to what you ask for.

The only computer a light plane needs is the brain of the pilot- 6 billion made and counting.

Good point, Rick. A famous test pilot is reputed to have explained his survival in a long career by saying that he was never surprised when the engine stopped; he was always surprised when it didn't.

Always expect something to go wrong, whether it be a two-stroke mid corner siezure or some idiot looking straight at you but not seeing you.

I always thought unless a piano falls from the sky and hits me on the head- then anything else I should have seen coming.

No excuses- when you broken in pieces or dead- it does not matter who is at fault- the results are the same.

Same goes for aircraft engines- they can fail at anytime.

Always plan for the worst scenario and keep well ahead of the plane.

I constantly scan for a solution if it all goes to shit.

Hell, even in a car, I always expect some dick will run a red light and look.

Do not ever assume it will all be cool.

The ground is very unforgiving.

Phil

Back to actual aircraft-

I am happy to have systems that assist in navigation etc but only with a complete back up system of actual maps etc.

I have seen the uav stuff for radio control, very good stuff- but a failure is not a big risk in that field. In a real aircraft, it could be fatal.

If FBW were introduced then the entire intake and exhaust management systems would need to be reconfigured, more sensors and relays required etc. . Should an engine misfire for some reason, the computer management system may shut down the engine. This happens quite a bit now days in motor vehicles built after 1990. It would no longer be an easy task to identify the cause, especially by you the owner.The aircraft would have to be hooked up to a scan tool to detect the fault code and then the fault traced back and rectified. Considerable knowledge of the system and components would be required to identify and rectify a fault, often requiring removal of a component and testing with a new component.

Becomes very expensive, especially if the tech doing the work has no used parts he can try, and you as the end user will pay for all the components fitted to fault find whether they were the cause or not. I could go on about this but cutting it short, it would turn a relatively cheap excerise of fault finding into a major cost. (EG: 2 yr old Mercedes shuts down. Roadside services can't assist. Vehicle transported to Mercedes dealer. Dealer has vehicle for 3 weeks whilst trying to track cause of fuel system shutting down. Nobody in Aus can figure it out. $100,000 equipment shipped to Aus from Germany. Tests completed. No finding fault. Another tech guy sent out from Germany and off the top of his head at an inspiration, he checks a mercury switch (installed to prevent fuel flow in case of roll over) under the dash. Switch mount has somehow come loose and switch is closed. Fuel system shut down. This was not indicated by the software diagonsis.) Imagine the cost. In this case to Mercedes but caused a lot of headaches for all concerned.

 

My thoughts are stick with easy methods until we're absolutely sure we can trust computerised systems which can identify cause of a problem to the actual failing component.

Car just failed to keep running after only a month on road. 6 weeks of angst and entire fuel system, injectors, pumps etc replaced. No one had a clue what was wrong.

It seemed ridiculous to me- they spent a huge amount of money and time and still no fix.

No one seemed to think of the obvious- check the bloody computer. Turns out a reboot of system- a very easy and sensible thing to ensure system is working was never tried.

Dumb asses, 15 mins work and car performed perfectly. Well over ten grand was spent for a 15 min fix.

Quality of systems is something merc have really dropped in recent years- I doubt my brother will ever trust another merc and certainly not their service techs.

Meanwhile my 12 year old V8 BMW has never stopped, never had a computer problem. Yes It has a full computer system and fly by wire throttle, but stability control etc can all be turned off with one button- the god button.

Some systems are well designed and rarely have problems and some are the windows of cars.

I would be real worried if windows had control of whether I die or live.

Good start.

Me I would like a Mad monk version.

Or maybe his face on my crap windows computer and a shot gun.

sorry puter did it-

every time I post it says try again..I do and up it comes multiple posts.

Bill Gates ...............you suck.

I reckon Tomo is just putting out a reasonable offer.

I am often asked to drive modified cars for my opinion and to ensure they get used but not abused.

Never harms to ask a reasonable question.

(Moderated)

Strange things do happen.

The dog 'Monty' will happily sit next to the snake- he has now been adopted to get vermin that hide in the roof- Monty is no good in roof cavities.

Why not reach for sexy lingerie- that is the question.

Since your in the Burbs of Squidney, I would give some time.

sorry double post.

Ah, warm fuzzy memories of wildlife and moving machinery.

I have a very small long haired chihuahua dog that has killed way over 100+ big f..kin rats. Some about his size- they are vicious bastards and put up a huge fight when cornered ( I have scars to prove it). The dog however is just a flash of furr and dead rat. He snaps their neck as he hits em. He has never tried to play with em or eat em- just kills em. A lot better than some that eat em, then throw up.

Even had some dead and still standing- look of shock on face, eyes still open!

Get a good small dog for the hangar, let him spend time in the plane and he will protect his patch to the death.

I also don't like the idea of rat baits- they might nibble some and then back to your wing for a sleep and die in there, then body fluids can damage airframe.

My vote goes to a Hunter-Killer Canine, much less damage than a shot gun and heaps more accurate.

Found a six foot python in girlfriends undies drawer, all curled up and snoozing. Not what you expect when reaching for sexy lingerie.

It always amazes me how choppers completely self destruct.

Soon as they touch something they are inhabited by demons that refuse to stop until total chaos happens.

Very unsporting - just like a big spider, whack it and it curls up in a ball and looks heaps smaller.

Glad no fatalities.

A little supercharger would be sweet. Prob'ly simpler than a turbo.

The viking really would be good as a turbo..Very sort distances to inlet and turbo can mount directly to head- no heavy manifold.

No need for a modified drive to run the supercharger and belt etc.

The turbo would grab maximum lost power from the exhaust and thus make it quieter. This can allow the muffler to be removed, so some weight saved here.

The modern designed for application low pressure turbo can be pretty impressive. They are often much cheaper than a suitable supercharger as well.

All the stuff that makes a good turbo engine are already there ie. injection, ecu's etc.

But if a off the shelf supercharger was suitable and cheap enough?

wow!

way to cool

The applications are huge

Once again Germany just keep innovating

So cool.

Compact and all the right specs. The ability to fit a tight cowl really attracts, as does the dry sump.

The cost is pretty good esp. compared to Rudetax here in Oz.

It also looks like the perfect setup for a mild blow turbo, easily attainable extra horses and would still be reliable.

The distances involved and head integral exhaust manifold, would make a very compact and reasonably light system.

Given Viking do their own ecu's then correct programming should not be a problem.

Maybe set up with a over-boost mode for take off etc.........

130hp should be quite easy, probably more.

It would make a hell of a motor for a single seater........The first 200kt RAA plane?

I think this could be a far better basis than a 914 for higher altitude work. The Efi should on be a benefit with far greater ability to produce power in thin air. That is system dependant of course but with millions of engines made and zillions of km's in all sort of road altitudes and temps- injection is our friend.

I hope to see a lot of the Vikings installed and getting hours up.

And just think, given the US economy and Tea Party antics, the Greenback will be be the new pacific peso.

I can imagine a $10,ooo landed price best for Obama or if the lunatics get to run the asylum.....$6,000.

I really like this engine.

Phil

l knew those years of teacher training................ Wasted

I failed those last ones too.

What does a girl do on here knees and a man do bending over?

Harry: Pick flowers.

Now aren't we all glad they did not keep this idea.

Imagine Qantas and the service problems they could have- and I thought they had enough problems.

"Hey is that something falling from that Qantas?"

Attention ladies and gents, this is your Captain speaking- We have had a slight problem and have turn off engine No 1 and ejected it.

We are confident we will miss the blast zone, by the time it hits.

Thank you for Flying Qantas.

But the new ads would be cool- Kangaroo bounds and drops a nuclear poo. cue Peter Allen.

And Finding a crash site would be easy- just look for the glowing mushroom cloud.

Naturally waste would not be a problem with the new Siberian maintenance staff.

Now .....where is that F..kin Irishman?

sorry puter did it.

Now aren't we all glad they did not keep this idea.

Imagine Qantas and the service problems they could have- and I thought they had enough problems.

"Hey is that something falling from that Qantas?"

Attention ladies and gents, this is your Captain speaking- We have had a slight problem and have turn off engine No 1 and ejected it.

We are confident we will miss the blast zone, by the time it hits.

Thank you for Flying Qantas.

But the new ads would be cool- Kangaroo bounds and drops a nuclear poo. cue Peter Allen.

And Finding a crash site would be easy- just look for the glowing mushroom cloud.

Naturally waste would not be a problem with the new Siberian maintenance staff.

Now .....where is that F..kin Irishman?