Tell me about your hangar block.

[trailer]

I am curious to know how much you or your buddy pays for a single hangar block lease or rates and for what size block. Could you also include the location, if it is private, club or public, add info on what services (if any) are available and if its a lease how long is it.   Trying to present something to a council for them to think about making some space available for private hangars. 

[Moneybox]

Tell em it's a community service supplied for free by all respectable proactive towns. 😇

[skippydiesel]

If you cant get permission for or afford a conventional hanger why not a temporary structure?

 

I am impressed by the potential for either stand alone arcs/polly tunnels or the ark on top of two containers.

 

[onetrack]

Skippy, they're called Dome Shelters, and they're very popular on mine sites, and even industrial sites, where fixed buildings are a wasted investment.

 

The best part is, they're very saleable secondhand, because they can be easily dismantled and moved. The Australian-built ones are vastly better quality than the cheap Chinese rubbish.

 

https://www.domeshelter.com.au/

 

 

[Moneybox]

A hanger at the Cue airport has to be a CASA approved structure and the dome shelter doesn’t meet the standard. The one hanger out there consists of the same two 40’ containers with a colour bond roof on a couple of trusses. It does look a lot better and will surely still be there long after the plastic shelter has degraded. 

[T510]

I currently have an All Shelter (Dome shelter), at 10 years old the canvas is starting to deteriorate and I am looking to replace it with a metal hangar.

 

Our shire council requires permits if you want to put in a shipping container or an All Shelter.

 

 

[skippydiesel]

I guess Councils can make the rules however seems crazy that a structure without foundations can be of any interest to a Council.

 

As for Cue - are you seeking to put up a temporary shelter or a hanger?  Words matter.

 

The word "hanger" has all sorts of connotations in the mind of a petty Council bureaucrat.

 

Temporary structure is just that - usually without significant foundation/earth works. Quick to erect, almost as quick to remove. Not usually of great interest to Councils (unless someone complains). The arc/dome covering is more like a heavy duty tarp, than what is used for polly tunnels

 

To late now but was it wise to contact Council in the first instance? "Better to seek forgiveness than permission".😈

Edited October 24, 2025 by skippydiesel

[facthunter]

Rub the Councils nose in the Cat$#1t and you might just as well leave town. Nev

[Moneybox]

5 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

I guess Councils can make the rules however seems crazy that a structure without foundations can be of any interest to a Council.

 

As for Cue - are you seeking to put up a temporary shelter or a hanger?  Words matter.

 

The word "hanger" has all sorts of connotations in the mind of a petty Council bureaucrat.

 

Temporary structure is just that - usually without significant foundation/earth works. Quick to erect, almost as quick to remove. Not usually of great interest to Councils (unless someone complains). The arc/dome covering is more like a heavy duty tarp, than what is used for polly tunnels

 

To late now but was it wise to contact Council in the first instance? "Better to seek forgiveness than permission".😈

The only application I made to the council was an informal email to the Town Planner to discuss the need for approval of an open machinery shed adjacent to the existing shed in the middle of the lease. I was told I would need approval as it's within the town boundary and it was unlikely it would be approved. It was about a week before I got the notification from the Mines Department stating that the shire wanted to take my lease.

 

I can erect a structure without a solid roof, shade cloth for example, without applying for approval but that's on my land not at the airport. I cannot place a container on my land without approval.

[KRviator]

Upper Hunter Council is going to vote on Monday to sell of ~4,000m2 of "roadway" within the airport confines after an adjoining landowner made an unsolicited approach to Council to buy it, to incorporate it into their two existing lots. The price according to an "independent valuation"? A mere $85,000. For 4000m2 of prime airport land. And that's without going to tender or anything as "There's unlikely to be more than one interested party...."

Oh, and it also involves closing the road, thus limiting vehicular access to some hangars until Council decide to design, approve and construct a new intersection and internal roadway and godonlyknows what cost to their ratepayers...

[Flightrite]

The word Aviation to councils is like waving a red rag to a bull! Their sole purpose is to be obstructive 🤮

[facthunter]

People don't want planes flying around their proximity. More responsive to a "Greased Palm" for a new subdivision which increases Rate income. Nev

[Moneybox]

14 hours ago, KRviator said:

Upper Hunter Council is going to vote on Monday to sell of ~4,000m2 of "roadway" within the airport confines after an adjoining landowner made an unsolicited approach to Council to buy it, to incorporate it into their two existing lots. The price according to an "independent valuation"? A mere $85,000. For 4000m2 of prime airport land. And that's without going to tender or anything as "There's unlikely to be more than one interested party...."

Oh, and it also involves closing the road, thus limiting vehicular access to some hangars until Council decide to design, approve and construct a new intersection and internal roadway and godonlyknows what cost to their ratepayers...

Sounds like an opportunity for a great hanger block. If you could afford to get started an have a couple others build hangers on your block for a little rent.

[facthunter]

Which aerodrome are you referring to?  Nev

[Moneybox]

My plane is sitting in Northam out in the weather. There are at least 40 hangars but it seems nobody has space to spare. The shire are going to release more land but it’s a drawn out process. First it must go before council then the Dept of Lands Conservation and Land Management or any other of the similarly named government departments. The land clearing permit can take up to two years. 
 

Then I tried the Shire of Wongan Hills and Ballidu just 100km north. The said they have land available but the same Gov Dept delays apply. There are only three hangars but approval to build can also take up to two years. What a painful bunch of useless public public servants we have.

 

Anyway we must plan ahead. I’m interested in other peoples hangar door preferences. I like the bi-fold doors but the cheap nasty sheds being offered cannot support the weight. We looked at a great one last night, it was made in 2m sections and slides sideways around the corner and down the inside of the LH wall. There are lots of designs, some easy and expensive others no so much.

 

I’m interested to know your Hangar Door preferences. 

[KRviator]

1 hour ago, Moneybox said:

I’m interested to know your Hangar Door preferences. 

I have the standard 3 x sliding leaves on my hangar at the moment and it's 'okay', but I wouldn't do it again. 

Ground movement and the PO dragging something across the bottom rails means the lower pins stick in certain spots and you need to get the ride-on to unstick it if you misjudge the momentum needed to get it past that spot.

Depending on the construction of your hangar, I'd probably stump up the coin for one of those hydraulic tilt-a-doors from HPDoors or similar. There was a recent thread, I think on MooneySpace, that discussed them with quite positive reviews. I dunno what the cost would be to have it done or shipped down here, but I suspect it would be a lot. But the convenience would outweigh it PDQ I'd suspect.

The other option would be to DIY it...

 

[NT5224]

Here’s mine

 

Dome shelter. Total construction cost including concrete blocks and delivery 300km about $7000. It took my wife and I  (two people) about a week to construct. Had it five years now. Went through two cyclones. It won’t last forever but when the tension membrane goes I’ll replace it for $2000. 

 

Alan 

 

Edited January 23 by NT5224

[onetrack]

Here is another option, a little more expensive than the dome shelter.

 

Shipping Container Roof Kits | PodRoof Australia

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[Moneybox]

4 hours ago, KRviator said:

I have the standard 3 x sliding leaves on my hangar at the moment and it's 'okay', but I wouldn't do it again. 

Ground movement and the PO dragging something across the bottom rails means the lower pins stick in certain spots and you need to get the ride-on to unstick it if you misjudge the momentum needed to get it past that spot.

Depending on the construction of your hangar, I'd probably stump up the coin for one of those hydraulic tilt-a-doors from HPDoors or similar. There was a recent thread, I think on MooneySpace, that discussed them with quite positive reviews. I dunno what the cost would be to have it done or shipped down here, but I suspect it would be a lot. But the convenience would outweigh it PDQ I'd suspect.

The other option would be to DIY it...

 

I really like this door, no tracks to fill with dirt or to get easily damaged. The worst part is I’d have to build it myself and I really don’t want the work. 

[T510]

9 hours ago, NT5224 said:

Here’s mine

 

Dome shelter. Total construction cost including concrete blocks and delivery 300km about $7000. It took my wife and I  (two people) about a week to construct. Had it five years now. Went through two cyclones. It won’t last forever but when the tension membrane goes I’ll replace it for $2000. 

 

Alan 

 

That's a bargain. Mine is an All Shelter brand and they quoted me $14k for a replacement cover with tension kit ($8k without the tension kit) and $14k for a rear wall.

[NT5224]

1 hour ago, T510 said:

That's a bargain. Mine is an All Shelter brand and they quoted me $14k for a replacement cover with tension kit ($8k without the tension kit) and $14k for a rear wall.

Indeed. It’s a cheap Chinese brand Dome shelter. I picked it up from Pickles Auctions five years ago new after a mining project fell through. I recall it was  $3000. It’s 12x12m, a standard size. A replacement tension membrane was advertised at $2000 online, generic brand. My tensioners all still work fine so no need to replace.

 

I built the back wall using uprights and steel sourced from my local dump shop. It’s not pretty but working alone took me four days and estimated  $1000 materials. 
 

Akan 

[Moneybox]

1 hour ago, T510 said:

That's a bargain. Mine is an All Shelter brand and they quoted me $14k for a replacement cover with tension kit ($8k without the tension kit) and $14k for a rear wall.

One of the guys here in Cue has a dome shelter that self destructed as everything plastic does up here. He bought long lengths of Zincalume and ran them longitudinally, end to end, starting at the bottom of the arch working to the top either side. It created a very neat and solid shelter that will surely outlast any fabric. It’s over his drive-through workshop so has no ends.

For his hangar he has a couple of 40’ containers with a steel roof between but no door.

 

Edited January 24 by Moneybox

[T510]

2 hours ago, NT5224 said:

Indeed. It’s a cheap Chinese brand Dome shelter. I picked it up from Pickles Auctions five years ago new after a mining project fell through. I recall it was  $3000. It’s 12x12m, a standard size. A replacement tension membrane was advertised at $2000 online, generic brand. My tensioners all still work fine so no need to replace.

 

I built the back wall using uprights and steel sourced from my local dump shop. It’s not pretty but working alone took me four days and estimated  $1000 materials. 
 

Akan 

Allshelter know how to charge, they claim a superior Australian made product to the Chinese ones and offer a 10 year warrantee. 

Don't know the accuracy of their claims, I think the Chinese would definitely offer the better value, even if you have to replace them more often.

 

I am reskinning mine in corrugated iron sheets. I'll add a rear wall and front doors too. Mine is ground mounted, not on containers

[Moneybox]

9 hours ago, T510 said:

Allshelter know how to charge, they claim a superior Australian made product to the Chinese ones and offer a 10 year warrantee. 

Don't know the accuracy of their claims, I think the Chinese would definitely offer the better value, even if you have to replace them more often.

 

I am reskinning mine in corrugated iron sheets. I'll add a rear wall and front doors too. Mine is ground mounted, not on containers

Please excuse my crude drawing, I can't photograph it because I'm in Perth but this is the direction he laid the iron sheeting.

 

Edited January 24 by Moneybox

[Moneybox]

While driving around Perth I've been thinking of this door. I decided the best option might be like shown in the video KRviator put up but constructed from freezer panel. I think it might even come in full length 12m sheets. It'd be light weight and rigid, well insulated and easily installed.